stevasaurus 22,884 #1 Posted October 24, 2012 I was rebuilding this #5010 transmission (fits 1960 Suburbans and the 1961 401) and I thought I would make a video of the way the trans actually works. I was curious myself. One note...ALL OF THE WHEEL HORSE MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS WORK THIS WAY..the 6 and 8 speeds have an extra shifter and gear in them, but the rest is the same...the 3 speed uni-drives and the 4 speeds work the same way also. You might have the HI/LOW shifter, 1 1/8" axles, 6 or 8 pinions in the differential...but when you open it up it looks just like this and works the same way. Hope you enjoy the video...thanks I will post all the replacement numbers for the bearings and seals here...do not have them all yet at this point. Almost all of it is not available from Toro anymore. My thanks to VinsRJ for sending me a replacement axle gear and his expertise. Here is what I started with...both hubs were froze on...one still is. I had my homemade hub puller on this hub, and this hub snapped. I ended up cutting the hub off with a 4" grinder and then using a puller to get the rest of it. The two side plates. The axle holes are on the top. Below that is the bearings that hold the 11/44 tooth gear with the brake shaft. The bearing on the right is a needle bearing WH #1508 (equates to Torrington B-1212,L125) and the seal for this is WH #1303 (equates to SKF 7410). The bearing on the left and the lower left and lower right, where the input shaft goes is WH # 1519 (equates to Timkin S 8 K ). The seal for this is Timkin 471643. The 2 closed bearings WH #1502 (equates to an R-12), but the one I found is about 1/8" thicker then what was there. The jury is still out on this bearing. A picture of all the parts laid out that go in the trans. The number for the bronze bearings that go in the axle housing is CB 1618-12. The number for the bronze bearings that fit the differential housing is CB 2224-14...these are about 1/2" too long and need to be cut to an 1 1/2" length. The axle seals are only available from Toro #83-2840...these are running about $19.00 each. I got the rest of the bearings and seals from Motion Industries...very reasonable. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,642 #2 Posted October 24, 2012 Another great video from Jurassic Park Productions. Really nice Steve. :thumbs: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMC RULES 37,134 #3 Posted October 24, 2012 Pretty neat...always wondered what was going on in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Kuhn 1,556 #4 Posted October 24, 2012 Very cool steve! really appreciate you doing this for me! And vince, Thanks for the gear! ~jake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 617 #5 Posted October 24, 2012 Nice video, thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coadster32 793 #6 Posted October 24, 2012 Cool video Steve. I have rebuilt one in the past and understood it, but sure is cool to see it in action. Thanks for posting it up. :thanks: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
varosd 1,185 #7 Posted October 24, 2012 Neat video Steve Did you say "fight me or bite me, Baby"? That would be cool to bring to the big show as a demo piece or who can reassemble it in the fastest time Mods/Admin- is this video worthy of our new Video section? I think it is! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rydogg 186 #8 Posted October 24, 2012 Great video Steve...when it comes to transmissions I have no clue how to clean/repair/rebuild them but this video makes it look pretty easy. My son came in while I was watching this video and I asked him if he knew who was talking in the video and he says "uncle Steve" it's kinda funny since they have only met Steve at one show. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dclarke 4,034 #9 Posted October 24, 2012 Pretty impressive Steve, your videos really help. Thanks. :thumbs: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin 2,133 #10 Posted October 24, 2012 great video steve.... that style of trans makes it ideal for a video such as this. i did spin my rebuilt 1057 trans (not sure of the #) in half of the housing through all the gears, but its hard to keep everything right. spacing the side plates with bolts and nuts/ threaded rod or whatever in that earlier trans to test is a great idea. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lane Ranger 10,992 #11 Posted October 25, 2012 Steve: You have made another all time best Red Square tutorials! I always wanted to see how that unidrive gear box worked inside also! Great job and glad you took the time to provide this for the rest of us! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeek 2,286 #12 Posted October 25, 2012 Wow sweet! I'll give you $200 for the special Wheel Horse Transmission Spinner Tool . . . never mind I just figured out I have one . . Nice video!! Thanks for taking the time to make that . . . love the technical videos :techie-studyinggray: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray 10 #13 Posted October 25, 2012 thanks, lacking x-ray vision this really helps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rooster 191 #14 Posted October 25, 2012 Is there a link to the video? It comes up as a photo on my phone :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimD 3,345 #15 Posted October 25, 2012 Try this Rooster... http://s419.photobucket.com/albums/pp278/stevasaurus/5010-2%20TRANSMISSION/?action=view¤t=2011_1027JAKESTRANNYS0015.mp4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foozerush 40 #16 Posted October 25, 2012 Awesome Video!! :greetings-clappingyellow: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
"D"- Man 827 #17 Posted October 28, 2012 IT NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME THE BENEFIT REDSQUARE MEMBERS SO CORDIALLY OFFER TO OTHER REDSQUARE MEMBERS! EXCELLENT VIDEO STEVE. THE TRANNY JUST RECENTLLY WENT OUT IN OUR 2001 CHRYSLER TOWN & COUNTRY MINI VAN YOU THINK YOU COULD DO A: REMOVE, DISASSEMBLY, REPAIR, REASSEMBLY, AND REPLACE VIDEO INCLUDING SPECIFIC PART NUMBERS FOR IT? THANKS, MARK. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOC in Kentucky 178 #18 Posted October 29, 2012 Wow, I am impressed and grateful. Great Job, Steve!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnWHfan 47 #19 Posted October 29, 2012 Nice tutorial Steve. Have you had a chance to try the evaporust on the stuck hub yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rooster 191 #20 Posted October 29, 2012 Thanks Jim, great video Steve! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevasaurus 22,884 #21 Posted October 29, 2012 I did a quick video here to show the difference between the differential and the brake shaft gear for the transmissions that have the needle bearing vice the ball bearing in the brake shaft hole in the 5003 / 5010 and the later 5010 transmissions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rooster 191 #22 Posted October 29, 2012 Great Info! but....repeat after me... five thousand and three, or fifty ohh three, or five zero zero three..or even five ohh ohh three I looked for an hour, still haven't found a manual for a "Fitty Oh Tree" ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clemedc 29 #23 Posted October 30, 2012 Thanks again steve Im using this post to tear into my 5010. Your a life saver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #24 Posted November 19, 2012 It doesn't get any better than your training video! Excellent information and reference material. Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wh1257 226 #25 Posted November 26, 2012 and can anybody makes a vid from a 8 speed transmission 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
