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Martin

was just going through my photobucket account and realized while most of you have seen pics of the inside of my garage when im doing work on the :wh: s nearly all of you havent seen how it got that way.....
the building is 24 x 40 x 10, walls are 2 x 6 old straight lumber salvaged from an old warehouse that was on the now vacant block next door. truss roof.

i dont have any digitals of the foundation and slab pour, only from when we started framing. jeanine and i did everything except the slab and electrical load center install, the trusses were pre fab but we flipped them up just the two of us, some days trying to convince her we werent crazy was hard. it definitely brought a close marriage closer.....anyway enjoy the pics......

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alright i need a rest for 5 minutes...........

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Sparky

Wow...I would love to have space that big for a shop. Is it strictly for WH's or does some other hobby happen in this shop?

Mike..........

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AMC RULES

You and Mrs. Martin do good work, when can I get the both of you over to my place? :thumbs:

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Martin

starting to really look like a building now.......

just looking back over all these, my body remembers how it felt after every full day of work on this......

slab was poured in the summer of 2004 and we got it to lock up stage by first snow in dec 2004. through the winter it got inside work done, insulation, plywood wall covering, and steel sheet ceiling etc.

then when the weather got better in 05 i did the soffit, siding, and finished the trim work out side....

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inside finished, dont think it will ever look this clean again.....

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how it looks now......

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the donor....... all the walls 2 x 6s, door headers and ply for the inside walls came from here. took about 6 months to get everything i used out of this thing. still, the lumber was mostly dead straight, i could pick through the best of it, most of it was 95-100 years old, so well seasoned, and best of all it was free.....

well, except for the labor,and aches and pains.........

i still have a bunch of 2 x 6, 2 x 10, 2 x 12, and other sizes laying around the place. handy for the odd project. lumber you buy these days is crap compared to this old stuff.....

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Martin

Wow...I would love to have space that big for a shop. Is it strictly for WH's or does some other hobby happen in this shop?

Mike..........

well mike, you will see from the other pics that it was being used for other 'hobbies' for a while. now its strictly :wh:

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Trouty56

Martin...really nice shop. Looks like you had fun putting it up too.

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Martin

yeah bob, we had fun, its something really big that we shared in together. im really happy how it turned out and im glad i spent time and did it right. its so nice to be in there on a humid day and its nice and cool in there. havent needed to install ac at all yet, very well insulated and the attic is vented well. i get by in the winter with a small ceiling mounted electric heater.....

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squonk

Man I love the big Olds. Brings back lot's of memories of working on those 455's. :banana-wrench: They were scary putting them on a lift. about 7 feet would hang out the back. They were fun in the winter. all the snow and salt would get packed up in those skirts and rear fenders. Put the car on a lift and have lunch. Come back and forget the snow was there. Walk under the car and BOOM! AVALANCHE! All the snow and ice right down on your head and down your shirt! :hide: :jaw:

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Coadster32

:eusa-clap: Awesome job!!! Seems like you did it perfectly. Great building materials, great teamwork, patience, timing, etc. What a great story!!! Thanks foir sharing. I was going to build our 20x24 addition on our house myself, but ended up hiring out 50% of it. (Turned out ok, as I ended up having back surgery) :*****:

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Martin

mike, i wish i still had it. awesome beater to drive around in. bags and bags of torque. didnt look like much, but its one of the nicest 70s cars ive ever had. sold it to a friend of one of my kids. last i heard it was driven into a tree....... :angry-cussingblack:

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Jake Kuhn

Nice shop martin :handgestures-thumbup: The clutter of horses make it look better :ychain: Jake

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massey

Nice job on the garage. I agree, they have a lot of nerve calling that crap lumber and selling it to us.

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Fun Engineer

Nice job Martin. Looks good. Glad to see someone reuse materials.

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So, you got it under roof and then operated a "chop shop" to fund the build? :ychain: All kidding aside ,I would LOVE to have a garage as nice as yours. I really like the reuse of the lumber as you not only saved money,but you saved a tree. Great build! :handgestures-thumbup:

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Martin

rich, i get so frustrated when i have to buy lumber, such crap nowadays, not dried or seasoned anywhere near long enough. all of the stuff i got was just next door, so after work daily i would head over there and start tearing stuff out. some of it was a real challenge, i couldnt even begin to imagine how many nails i pulled out of lumber so i could use it. and being old most of it was hard, it hung onto those nails real good. while i really liked the idea of recycling, the drive to keep pulling out lumber was really fueled by the cost factor and the quality of the lumber. beautiful stuff to work with, and if there was a piece that i wasnt happy with, it was just a matter of walking back to the 'lumber yard' and pull myself another.......

the walls and trusses were the biggest challenge for the two of us, but with a little ingenuity and some come alongs, an engine crane, ropes, chains and my trusty 3/4 ton chevy we got through it. i still remember the day i was tilting that 40 ft long back wall into place, took us a good couple hours to get that thing up, being the first challenge my wife thought we were nuts, if only she knew at the time that would get trumped by the raising of 21 roof trusses and lifting 38 4' x 8' 1/2" sheets of osb up onto the roof, one at a time........ :woohoo:

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Martin

You and Mrs. Martin do good work, when can I get the both of you over to my place? :thumbs:

craig, umm, probably never, jeanine cant get me to do anything building wise since i discovered the horses.........

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squonk

mike, i wish i still had it. awesome beater to drive around in. bags and bags of torque. didnt look like much, but its one of the nicest 70s cars ive ever had. sold it to a friend of one of my kids. last i heard it was driven into a tree....... :angry-cussingblack:

I started working at a small Chevy-Olds dealer out of college. We had a 70 88 as our "shop" vehicle. We towed in farm trucks with it. It was an awesome machine. The inside smelled like fuel (don't all the 70's bomb cars do!)and it had the 350 Rocket. That car ran so good ,when one of us had to go to Buffalo for training we took that. We just had to buy the gas. :)

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Martin

i really wanted an 88 with the 455. 1970 was the one. if you know your olds you will know mine was a 71, still a torque monster, but not quite as good as a 70 and i just liked the 88 look as well......

oh well, i found this thing in a yard here in town for 400.....

had a blown head gasket when i got it, ran ok otherwise, fixed the gasket, did the valves while off, and the timing chain (really bad) and threw duals on it and this thing really woke up. the timing chain was the most of it, man that thing was stretched, that car moved like i threw out 1000 lbs after it was done.......

loved the ac, electric everything including the bench seat, really nice inside, like new......

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bowtiebutler956

I had a 70 olds 88 with a 455 back when I was dating my wife. That thing would absolutely melt the rear tires, all her friends loved being in that car while I was doing donuts in that Large Barge. :woohoo: I finally sold it to a guy who used it for the demolition derby! I felt bad, for the other cars that is. :ychain: Good Memories. Nice work on your garage Martin! :thumbs:

Matt :flags-texas:

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Terry M

Nice shop Martin :thumbs: , wish I had a place like that for my projects.

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neil

Great workshop martin , also great to see the mrs getting involved in the build & getting her hands dirty.

I work in the condtruction industry here in UK as i am a Bricklayer as my trade but i also do all my own carpentry & plastering too , so looking at the work you have done on building the garage i think you made an excellent job ( or was it your Mrs that done all the work really) lol

I would like to ask a couple of questions on building works in the US

1. Doyou have to have permissions to build garages

2. do you have inspector to come and see your work to make sure that you have built correctly

3 how much does your lumber cost in US say for a 10ft length of 2x4

4 why are most of the buildings in US built out of timber

There are loads more questions to ask but these few will do fornow

The reason why i ask these quuestions is to see how different your building works in US compare to ours here in UK

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Martin

thanks for the nice comments guys,

neil, yes you need permission, in my town, you need to get a building permit, stating what you propose to build, dimensions etc. here, i had a max height of 16 ft, and size of 1000 sq ft. i came in at 960. and i was right on the 16. it gets inspected when the footings are poured, ( over 700 sq ft i think you needed footings, and they need to go down 4 ft.) again at closed in stage, which was where i was at when the snow hit in the pics, before any insulation, or inside covering. and the final inspection when complete. i think if its done properly, the inspections are no more than to make sure they can bump the property taxes up more.....

being a builder back home for 15 years, i sort of knew how the inspection process worked, if your workmanship is good and you follow the local codes, you hardly ever run into problems.... its when they see you trying to get away with stuff, that usually it turns bad.....we built this for us, so unless i really overlooked something, i wasnt worried at all about it passing at any stage....

heres some local lumber pricing...... http://www.lowes.com/pl_Studs_4294807181_4294937087_?cm_cr=Lumber-_-Web+Activity-_-Lumber+Top+Flexible-_-SC_Lumber_TopFlexible_Area-_-178608_17_hardware_Pop_Cat_4-plywood_and_osb_panels

i think cost has a lot to do with materials used for building.......

i miss the solid brick construction and brick veneer type construction that we mainly do back home...

solid is basically two rows of brick and plastered finish on the inside row. veneer is one row of brick on the outside and supported/ tied into a timber frame on the second row.., with sheetrock (gypsum) sheeting to finish off the inside.....

i have only done work for myself here in the states, so im only familiar with this local area. i didnt like the idea of winter outside when i first came over, so i decided that a different career was for me. the powdercoating just sort of fell in my lap first and i went with it.....

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JamesBe1

Way to go Martin! Very nice garage.

It's great the you were able to take advantage of the old barn for wood. The lumber nowadays leaves a lot to be desired.

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Anglo Traction

:eusa-clap: Excellent Thread and project Martin !. Good to see how it's done over in U.S. I totally agree with you on using Old Timber. Very difficult to get quality nowadays anywhere.

Neil has already asked the pertinent questions for us here. Thanks .

I've been through the 'Build a Garage' challenge back in '83'. from doing the Drawings/planning to final fix Electrics. Never laid a Brick in my life until my Late Father-in-Law bought me a Brickie's Trowel, a 3ft Spirit Level and a Line and Pins. 12 weeks later, 6 cubic metres Ballast, 2500 bricks etc etc and it was finished. The Flat Felt roof lasted 25 years before leaking. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

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neil

Thanx for the answers to the questions Martin , It all sounds quite similar to the inspection process here in the UK, although things have got really strick here with regulations & its hard to keep up with all the new changes that the indusrty makes & keeping familiar with the latest building materials

Thanx for the info

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