Worn Kohler 16HP single from a WH 416-8 => Worth Anything ?

[WellsTC 1]

Members, I scrapped an old very worn WH 416-8 tractor from the late 80s (I think) whose engine was burning oil badly. The motor does not want to come apart. I did get the flywheel off but it still very hard to move because of its heavy cast iron block. The engine bore looks great which suggests that the engine was well maintained oil wise. However, this tractor was really beat.

I am at least the 3^rd owner and bought it for spare parts. Any guess about the value of the engine?

Is it worth rebuilding so I have an engine ready to go?

Note, I have a fully operational 2^nd WH 416-8 from the late 80s. Will I be able to get engine parts in the future ?

Thanks, Tom (NW Indiana)

[Jim_M 178]

The K341 and M 16s are getting harder to find every day. It is definetly worth keeping. I see bare13 fin blocks sell for $150.00 all the time. Even 12 fin blocks are valuable these days. In tractor pulling the 13 fin K 341 is the prefered block in the stock altered class.

[Kelly 1,029]

I sell rebuildable complete K341s for $200+ that is one that is not broken, just worn and needs rebuilding.

and most of the time it's pulling guys buying them

[squonk 41,167]

I'd buy one in a heartbeat if there was one nearby me!

[otrelwood 32]

i need a block like that here in LaPorte

[bowtiebutler956 650]

No, its not worth anything. Can I have it? The K341 is an awesome motor, and definitely worth rebiulding, or selling to someone who needs one.

Matt :flags-texas:

[BOWTIE 226]

I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE 12 AND 13 FIN K341 MOTORS. WHAT MODELS/YEARS HAD THE 13 FIN BLOCKS IN GENERAL? ANYBODY HAVE A GENERAL RULE THESE MOTORS. THANKS

BOWTIE IN OHIO

[Kelly 1,029]

I find the 13 fin blocks on everything, and all years, but I'm going to say 70's the most, but that is probably what I get in the most of.

[littleredrider 409]

I'd love to get my hands on one too....

[WellsTC 1]

I believe that this 16 HP Kohler single cylinder gas engine is a M16. The fin count is 12.

Union Mills is very close to LaPorte, Indiana (~11 miles). Perhaps Otrelwood (member # 4917) would like to check this old engine out ?

(I just uploaded a picture of our operational 416-8 as my member picture. This picture was taken after I put the tractor back together following a frame failure. The transmission literally ripped off the frame so the WH 416-8 had to come all apart.)

[Hydro 131]

I love my 16 and what's more important, I have confidence in the engine.

[Hodge71 664]

I love those old Kohlers. I was working today and could tell a lawnmower about 1/4 mile away had a thumper on it. It ended up being a mid 70s c series Wheel Horse.... They are a very good motor!!!

[baerpath 517]

I'd buy one in a heartbeat if there was one nearby me!

I have a new one and used ones either Magnum or K series

Duane

[WellsTC 1]

Yesterday I purchased a new air-cleaner for my operational 416-8 and questioned the EXPERT KOHLER dealer about the cost of rebiulding the spare engine. The parts man said that it wasn't worth the cost because they charge $7x.xx per hour for labor. => How many hours can it take for someone who knows what they're doing with the correct tools?

[baerpath 517]

You might not need a rebuild, might be the crank case breather or a set of rings. Should check it out more either is way cheaper than a rebuild

4hrs around here we can get one done for $100-150 labor not at a dealer just a pullers garage

[Kelly 1,029]

Around me for a basic rebuild with new parts that is boring the block and truing up the crank, grinding the valves and if they put it together will run $800-1000 if you put it together take about $200 off.

[wheelhorse656 20]

This guy sells them. The are aftermarket but quality kits..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Master-16HP-rebuild-KIT-KOHLER-K341-M16-W-Valves-16hp-ROD-not-12hp-/120898449974?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c261bf236

If thier is anything in this kit you dont see he has just send him a message.

[bowtiebutler956 650]

This guy sells them. The are aftermarket but quality kits..

http://www.ebay.com/...=item1c261bf236

If thier is anything in this kit you dont see he has just send him a message.

I'll second that. That's where my kit came from, and I'm very happy with mine so far.

Matt :flags-texas:

[3609horse 27]

I am new to this and have seen engines that need a rebuild sell for hundreds, but when I tried to sell one that I have I couldn't get $50. Maybe I live in the wrong place.

[can whlvr 993]

its always that way,when you want it its expensive,when you want to sell you cant get skwat :banghead:

[WellsTC 1]

I tried to give my old engine to Otrelwood for free today but he insisted on paying me $50 for it ! ==> I think that I live in the right place :)

[otrelwood 32]

I think everything is worth something to somebody the fun the boy and i are gonna have rebuilding a quaility engine to put on a future horse in priceless Thanks Tom