skrusins 128 #1 Posted April 13, 2012 Has anyone tried or using a hose connecter on the top mowing deck? I was looking at new tractors and they have a quick connect hose adapter on the top of deck. From what I was told all you do is attach a hose turn it on and engage the PTO. It looks like a simple fix, but does it work? I know I would like some feed back and some of would like to also. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider10 3 #2 Posted April 13, 2012 Have seen loads of newer mowers fitted with hose connectors but never seen what happens. I assume the water gets blasted round by the blades and hopefully blasts all the grass etc off. seems like a good idea to me. Ian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
refracman 167 #3 Posted April 13, 2012 I have it on my deck, it does seem to work, and your right Ian, about how it works. The spindles are aluminum and if not kept clean the acid from the grass will eat them, so ya its a good idea, mine still look like new after 9 yrs of service. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtiebutler956 650 #4 Posted April 13, 2012 Sounds like a good idea, but I have a hard time believing that just running water with the blades engaged would really be enough to get all the grass out from under the deck. I pressure wash mine, and I really have to work to get all that grass unstuck. Matt :flags-texas: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skrusins 128 #5 Posted April 13, 2012 refracman, may I ask where you got the adapters and was it had to install? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 993 #6 Posted April 14, 2012 ive seen it at tsc stores,i bet i works better on a one blade mower,im trying the duff treatment this year,used motor oil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_M 178 #7 Posted April 14, 2012 The xi series decks have the fitting installed from the factory. It works well, it basically pressure washes the underside of the deck without having to remove the deck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PPGman 5 #8 Posted April 14, 2012 My Dad actually has a newer Cub with this system on the mower. I have tried it a few times and was pretty depressed with the results. It does however do a nice job of covering both you and the tractor with water. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terry M-(Moderator) 2,175 #9 Posted April 16, 2012 I have tried the hose connection on a 1999 toro/wheelhorse after doing my yard. it removed alot of grass and left alot of soaking wet grass stuck under the Deck . Overall I think the set-up was too messy and didn't work well for me. Good Idea though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skrusins 128 #10 Posted April 16, 2012 Thanks Terry and PPGman, that's the answer I was looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_M 178 #11 Posted April 17, 2012 The thing I found that works the best is to drop the deck all the way down (set the height adjustment lever to it's lowest cutting position) on the concrete, connect the hose, kick the deck on, set the throttle wide open, turn the water on full blast and give it about 2 or 3 minutes. It does a pretty good job of cleaning and confines the mess to a small area, you scoop it up and put it on the compost pile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hydro 131 #12 Posted April 17, 2012 I have seen that attachment on 42" decks and wondered how well it would work? Has any body seen it on larger decks like a 48"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,135 #13 Posted April 17, 2012 The key is to use it after EACH mowing, not after the grass is dried on for months. When used that way, it works well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH252-H 4 #14 Posted April 17, 2012 I've used Rustoleum Coal Tar Epoxy on 2 decks now. It's similar to truck bed liner. It has a very high abrasion resistance & guarenteed for 10 yrs in salt water situations. You never know when you might take the tractor marlin fishing! The first tractor was sold, so no idea how thats working out. My personal tractor is doing great! I had the deck sand blasted made some repairs then applied 3 coats of the epoxy. I reinstalled all the hardware with stanless bolts and used it for 3/4 of last season. Last year it stayed clean as a whistle (assuming you keep your whistle clean). This spring I mowed damp tall grass 2 times and mowed over all the clumps until it was grass powder. A week later I checked the deck and it was plugged. I think if I had that water fitting and had used it after mowing most of that grass puree would have come out! I might try it. I plan on removing the deck around June for an inspection and I'll report the results. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_M 178 #15 Posted April 17, 2012 I have seen that attachment on 42" decks and wondered how well it would work? Has any body seen it on larger decks like a 48"? Mine is a 52" deck on a 520xi. The key is to use it after EACH mowing, not after the grass is dried on for months. When used that way, it works well. Kevin is absolutely correct. You have to start out with a clean deck and then keep it clean with the water fitting. It's not meant to loosen old hard, packed grass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsholler 54 #16 Posted April 17, 2012 Does it mow better when clean? Or does it corrode less? I assume in theory it should corrode less if you keep it spotless, but if you take the deck off a couple of times a summer to sharpen the blades, and you clean it up then and do the used motor oil trick (or some similar coating) , is that enough? Are you that much better off using the water blaster each time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_M 178 #17 Posted April 17, 2012 Does it mow better when clean? Or does it corrode less? I assume in theory it should corrode less if you keep it spotless, but if you take the deck off a couple of times a summer to sharpen the blades, and you clean it up then and do the used motor oil trick (or some similar coating) , is that enough? Are you that much better off using the water blaster each time? It's a little of both. You'll create better vacuum to stand the grass up with a clean deck. The main reason though is to make the deck last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,135 #18 Posted April 17, 2012 Does it mow better when clean? Or does it corrode less? I assume in theory it should corrode less if you keep it spotless, but if you take the deck off a couple of times a summer to sharpen the blades, and you clean it up then and do the used motor oil trick (or some similar coating) , is that enough? Are you that much better off using the water blaster each time? To add to what Jim said- wet grass is extremely corrosive, due to chemical makeup and because it holds moisture. Keeping the deck cleaned off will prevent this, and greatly improve the deck's function. Water on bare metal will dry in just a few minutes, but not on one coated with grass clippings. Simply put, it's the FAR lesser of two evils. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsholler 54 #19 Posted April 17, 2012 Does it mow better when clean? Or does it corrode less? I assume in theory it should corrode less if you keep it spotless, but if you take the deck off a couple of times a summer to sharpen the blades, and you clean it up then and do the used motor oil trick (or some similar coating) , is that enough? Are you that much better off using the water blaster each time? To add to what Jim said- wet grass is extremely corrosive, due to chemical makeup and because it holds moisture. Keeping the deck cleaned off will prevent this, and greatly improve the deck's function. Water on bare metal will dry in just a few minutes, but not on one coated with grass clippings. Simply put, it's the FAR lesser of two evils. I am sure that is true.. the question is relative. It seems like a lot of trouble to retrofit this onto a mower deck.. so the question is if you are a conscientious person and you sharpen your blades 2-3 times a summer and clean off the deck and coat it with an oil each time.. how much better off are you with the washer mechanism? (If were to make the deck last 100 years instead of 99.. it is probably not worth it.. if it was 100 years instead of 5, then I would do it tomorrow... ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skrusins 128 #20 Posted April 17, 2012 Does anyone have a listing of the parts you would need to make the conversion? Or some part nos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_M 178 #21 Posted April 18, 2012 Does it mow better when clean? Or does it corrode less? I assume in theory it should corrode less if you keep it spotless, but if you take the deck off a couple of times a summer to sharpen the blades, and you clean it up then and do the used motor oil trick (or some similar coating) , is that enough? Are you that much better off using the water blaster each time? To add to what Jim said- wet grass is extremely corrosive, due to chemical makeup and because it holds moisture. Keeping the deck cleaned off will prevent this, and greatly improve the deck's function. Water on bare metal will dry in just a few minutes, but not on one coated with grass clippings. Simply put, it's the FAR lesser of two evils. I am sure that is true.. the question is relative. It seems like a lot of trouble to retrofit this onto a mower deck.. so the question is if you are a conscientious person and you sharpen your blades 2-3 times a summer and clean off the deck and coat it with an oil each time.. how much better off are you with the washer mechanism? (If were to make the deck last 100 years instead of 99.. it is probably not worth it.. if it was 100 years instead of 5, then I would do it tomorrow... ) I think your deck would last a good long time if you clean it 2 or 3 times a year and oil the bottom. A lot of decks have never been cleaned and they're still hanging around after all these years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,135 #22 Posted April 18, 2012 I think your deck would last a good long time if you clean it 2 or 3 times a year and oil the bottom. A lot of decks have never been cleaned and they're still hanging around after all these years. What he said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 993 #23 Posted April 19, 2012 i bet if a guy was to put 2 hose connectors it would work even better,you would just need to fab a small hose splitter to hook up 2 hoses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJR49 129 #24 Posted April 21, 2012 I coated my 42" deck with West Systems epoxy 3 seasons ago. The deck stays clean , almost no build up at the end of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 993 #25 Posted April 21, 2012 i used an epoxy called system three,its like west,it only lasted i season and then it was peeling and failing ,i guess it depends on your lawn conditions alot,mine is alot of dirt slash sand in the later summer,when its dry and it blasts the crap out of the bottom of my decks,when epoxy doesnt last dont know what to do other than oil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites