reecie 3 #1 Posted November 29, 2011 Hey All, I just installed my snow blower (86-48ST01) on my 1976 D160 for the first time. Man I'm glad I went back and picked it up, as part of a package deal. Hydraulics work fine and the PTO engaged, big time!!! (those manuals are helpful:) Recall from my initial post when I joined a couple weeks ago, the previous owner initially told me the blower probably didn't work due to sitting outside. So we agreed if I wanted it I'd come back within 30 days. Initially, I just took the mower deck and tractor w/56" blade already attached. After reading the posts here on Red Square, and seeing the utter works of art some of you produce from old WHs, I went back... It was stiff when I got it home, but after 15 minutes of fooling around with some lubricant both augers were spinning like tops I read the manual and all the parts seemed to be there, so today I attached it and hit the PTO. Vroom!!! I can only imagine how far this thing chucks snow. Can't wait Forgot to snap a pic after I installed it, so I have to do that tomorrow. Below are pics of the blower prior to attaching it though. Thanks to all for the motivation to go back and grab it. Maurice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgoyette 12 #2 Posted November 29, 2011 Awesome! Those D blowers sure are big. I will be interested to see some action shots if you are able to when the snow flies. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reecie 3 #3 Posted November 29, 2011 DGOYETTE, Yes they are big! So are the tractors they're mounted to I hope to get some action shots to post when the snow flies. We caught some of the worst of the halloween storm and the 56" blade worked like a champ. Never had so much fun moving snow before. I am exploring some additional weighting options to augment the rear wheel weights. Thanks for the post. Maurice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingeNZ 1 #5 Posted December 1, 2011 Hi Reecie, I have the same setup as you mate, D160 & 86-48ST01, But in your pic of the blower you have a pully on there? Mine doesn't? Also how many sprockets does your blower chain run around, I am having a hell of a time keeping a new chain on new sprockets when in the snow! Any info great mate, Cheers Ginge :canada: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reecie 3 #6 Posted December 1, 2011 Hey Ginge, I don't understand. Your blower doesn't have a pulley? How are you attaching your belt to the pulley inside your tractor's grill? I run my belt from the pulley you see on the blower, to the same pulley I use for my mower deck (right behind the grill). I tightened to about 1/4 inch slack when it is depressed in the middle. Now I haven't had it in the snow yet, but I hope it stays on As far as the number of sprockets the chain runs around, I'll have to count tomorrow. Sorry, I didn't count them when I lubed the chain. BTW-- Again, how are you attaching your belt if you don't have a pulley on the blower (does your PTO spin the auger when you're not in snow?) Let me know and I'll help if I can. Are there other pictures that might help? Maurice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
varosd 1,185 #7 Posted December 2, 2011 Looks great! You are ready for the Winter!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reecie 3 #8 Posted December 2, 2011 VAROSD, Thanks. By the looks of your avatar so R U !!! That's a mean looking machine!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fourwheels0 191 #9 Posted December 2, 2011 reecie i'm not sure what kind of hitch you have on the back of yours but here's what i did with my c-160. 1/2 inch threaded rod with nylock nuts and weights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingeNZ 1 #10 Posted December 2, 2011 Hi Reecie mate My tractor just has 2 pullys , one at the top of the engine and one that runs the PTO, One belt , all of this inside the grill, The blower has no pully at all, It is connected by a shaft that runs to the small rear sprocket on the blower, which has a chain to the front big sprocket on the Auger , Pto kicks in when I flick the PTO switch, Its really got me buggared mate, I put new sprockets and chain on 2 weeks ago, all lined up well but still threw the bloody chain twice in 15 minutes I am going back out today to look at it again, I have bought a couple of idler sprockets Im going to try and mount one or both to give the chain more "bite", I was in Maine last weekend and there is a guy on hwy 9 who had a few wheelhorse parts etc but none like mine I cant upload pics on here for some reason, I will try again later on, Gotta get her running as we have already had one winter storm, Thanks for the reply and I will keep updated mate, Ginge :canada: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slufoot733 70 #11 Posted December 2, 2011 Maurice, here's a short video od a D serioes snow thrower in operation. This was a light (5") snow. The D's will handles much deeper snow. I love mine and can't wait for a 12" - 14" snowfall. >>>>> The trick to operating these snow throwers is: Run the engine at full power and regulate your forward speed with the hydro transmission. You need to keep the auger spinning as fast as you can. Never try to go faster than the thrower can eat the snow. If you do clog the auger disengage the drive immediately and clean out the clogged snow (shut off engine first....safety first!). You do NOT want to burn up that PTO clutch cause they're like IMPOSSIBLE to find. Enjoy, Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slufoot733 70 #12 Posted December 2, 2011 Gringe, I think the pully you see in his photo is the one on the gearbox that mounts under the grill. In the photo it's just sitting on the blower frame. Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reecie 3 #13 Posted December 2, 2011 Gringe, I think the pully you see in his photo is the one on the gearbox that mounts under the grill. In the photo it's just sitting on the blower frame. Kevin Kevin, You are so right. Gringe, Is your blower missing the gearbox? Can you snap a pic of what you have to expedite this? M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reecie 3 #14 Posted December 2, 2011 Maurice, here's a short video od a D serioes snow thrower in operation. This was a light (5") snow. The D's will handles much deeper snow. I love mine and can't wait for a 12" - 14" snowfall. >>>>> The trick to operating these snow throwers is: Run the engine at full power and regulate your forward speed with the hydro transmission. You need to keep the auger spinning as fast as you can. Never try to go faster than the thrower can eat the snow. If you do clog the auger disengage the drive immediately and clean out the clogged snow (shut off engine first....safety first!). You do NOT want to burn up that PTO clutch cause they're like IMPOSSIBLE to find. Enjoy, Kevin Kevin, THANKS A BUNCH!!! That was too cool You look like you're having more fun than watching Saturday afternoon football. I gotta believe you when you say regulate your speed, you're referring to much more snow (10-15 inches), cause you were cookin. Also, can see me attaching a cab. I think you could quickly become a frozen snowman if the crosswinds are not in your favor Very useful information also. I'll take it to heart. Two questions for you: You only have chains (not even wheel weights) on your rig and don't appear to have any traction issues. Am I missing something? I only have a single piece "Rod Crank" to turn the chute (no Rod Extension like the manual says). Having a devil of a time trying to fab a connector to attach the rod crank to the eye bolt, so that it doesn't buckle when you turn it and operates smoothly.The one that I have reaches, but the end has no hook, just a small hole (see pic). I'll take a pic today. Is your Rod Crank a single piece? Thanks again. Maurice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reecie 3 #15 Posted December 3, 2011 reecie i'm not sure what kind of hitch you have on the back of yours but here's what i did with my c-160. 1/2 inch threaded rod with nylock nuts and weights. Fourwheels, That'll work. I might try it myself. I came across this piece amongst the parts I pick up when I got my D (see pics below). Two questions: What is this called (see pic)? If I use this as my base, how much weight do you think I can put on it ( If it can safely support a good amount of weight, I think I have alot of options)? Let me know what you think. Thanks, Maurice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reecie 3 #16 Posted December 3, 2011 Hi Reecie, I have the same setup as you mate, D160 & 86-48ST01, But in your pic of the blower you have a pully on there? Mine doesn't? Also how many sprockets does your blower chain run around, I am having a hell of a time keeping a new chain on new sprockets when in the snow! Any info great mate, Cheers Ginge Ginge, I took some pics today and checked on the sprockets. Sprockets: 1 sprocket on the auger 2 idler sprockets 1 sprocket on the cross shaft ( on right side of blower) As far as my setup, I hope these pics help. Let me know. Maurice 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slufoot733 70 #17 Posted December 3, 2011 Maurice, The rear tires are filled with windshield washer fluid for weight. They hold about 7 gallons each! I would have preferred wheel weights but couldn't find any. My ROD CRANK is two piece. It's a square tube that slides over a square rod so that it has a little slip for when the blower is raised and lowered. But a single piece rod should work fine. As for the end, mine does have a hook. I see in your pics how you are attaching the rod with the bolt. You might try bending a hook into a rod by heating the metal and bending it. Or, you could find a chain link that is the correct size, cut it to the proper shape and weld it to the end of the rod. I'm sure there are a few other ideas you can come up with. I have found that the system for directing the shute isn't the best. Mine has been dinged up a bit over the years and I spent a lot of time with a ball peen hammer making the metal nice and smooth so it does not bind. Then I had to grease the pivot area real good. If you watch the video again look closely near the end. As I travel right to left I pass a telephone pole and then my neighbors mail box. AT THE MAIL BOX THE SHUTE FELL OFF and the snow shot straight up about 30 feet! I didn't have the shute properly seated but I do now. Later, Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
commodude90 0 #18 Posted December 3, 2011 Hello Reecie.... The picture you posted is a frame for a disc harrow. It basically breaks up dirt clods and lays the dirt in rows. The Discs are missing, they go below the v shaped bars towards the rear. It was probably build by brinly, as a lot of older manufacturers of garden tractors used the same set up. Just google "brinley harrow" and it should set you in the right direction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reecie 3 #19 Posted December 3, 2011 Commodude90, Thanks. I googled it. BTW-- What do you think about mounting/placing some type of weight thingy within the pentagon, for added weight to the rear wheels? Any heads-up info is appreciated. Maurice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingeNZ 1 #20 Posted December 3, 2011 Hey Reecie mate Thanks for the info man, I thought that pully was on ya blower mate, I will add another idler pully to mine as well, I reckon the snow is coming very soon so I gotta get out to the shed and do it, Thanks a heap mate I will update you in next few days! :canada: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingeNZ 1 #21 Posted December 3, 2011 Maurice thanks man for your very helpful input! I appreciate it, The help on here is awesome :bow-blue: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reecie 3 #22 Posted December 3, 2011 Maurice, The rear tires are filled with windshield washer fluid for weight. They hold about 7 gallons each! I would have preferred wheel weights but couldn't find any. My ROD CRANK is two piece. It's a square tube that slides over a square rod so that it has a little slip for when the blower is raised and lowered. But a single piece rod should work fine. As for the end, mine does have a hook. I see in your pics how you are attaching the rod with the bolt. You might try bending a hook into a rod by heating the metal and bending it. Or, you could find a chain link that is the correct size, cut it to the proper shape and weld it to the end of the rod. I'm sure there are a few other ideas you can come up with. I have found that the system for directing the shute isn't the best. Mine has been dinged up a bit over the years and I spent a lot of time with a ball peen hammer making the metal nice and smooth so it does not bind. Then I had to grease the pivot area real good. If you watch the video again look closely near the end. As I travel right to left I pass a telephone pole and then my neighbors mail box. AT THE MAIL BOX THE SHUTE FELL OFF and the snow shot straight up about 30 feet! I didn't have the shute properly seated but I do now. Later, Kevin Maurice, The rear tires are filled with windshield washer fluid for weight. They hold about 7 gallons each! I would have preferred wheel weights but couldn't find any. Kevin, That's what I was missing. Your weight solution is more than meets the eye. Cool, I haven't added fluid to the tires, but may be able to avoid by using the brinly harrow as a base for place some weight on top of it. It doesn't hang too far off the backend. My ROD CRANK is two piece. It's a square tube that slides over a square rod so that it has a little slip for when the blower is raised and lowered. But a single piece rod should work fine. As for the end, mine does have a hook. I see in your pics how you are attaching the rod with the bolt. You might try bending a hook into a rod by heating the metal and bending it. Or, you could find a chain link that is the correct size, cut it to the proper shape and weld it to the end of the rod. I'm sure there are a few other ideas you can come up with. I have found that the system for directing the shute isn't the best. Mine has been dinged up a bit over the years and I spent a lot of time with a ball peen hammer making the metal nice and smooth so it does not bind. I have the OM and I see the exact parts you have. You have the correct 2 piece assembly (Rod Crank and Rod Extension). This afternoon I used your idea and found a neat little hook from my local lumber yard. Attached pretty easy the Rod and the eye bolt without any binding issues. Took two days to find that $1 piece, LOL. Then I had to grease the pivot area real good. If you watch the video again look closely near the end. As I travel right to left I pass a telephone pole and then my neighbors mail box. AT THE MAIL BOX THE SHUTE FELL OFF and the snow shot straight up about 30 feet! I didn't have the shute properly seated but I do now. Later, Kevin As for lubricating and re-seating the chute correctly, I took mine off and cleaned it to get some of the surface rust and **** off. It was a bit tight. When I put it back on, it doesn't quite feel like it is seated right. I know you have to get it down over the lip of the piece that it rests on. I'll work on it because I'd hate for the pressure of the exiting snow to shoot the chute off during operation With the revised crank setup, the chute rotates from straight forward to far right, smoothly. I can live with that for now. I consider this issue now solved. Thanks! Again, real cool video. You and Lynn did a great job. I hope to reciprocate when the snow flies. Maurice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reecie 3 #23 Posted December 3, 2011 Maurice thanks man for your very helpful input! I appreciate it, The help on here is awesome Ginge, Right on. You're welcome There are alot more knowledge folks on here than me, but I can be stubborn, take a pic, and play with a headache until it stops hurting :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites