stevebo-(Moderator) 8,351 #1 Posted September 11, 2011 I know I should know this and saw a post about a year ago but I cannot find it while searching it. I need a cross over oil filter that I can get at a parts store as I need to change the oil. Fram, Wix, purolator etc. Can anyone help me out? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT-(Moderator) 1,145 #2 Posted September 11, 2011 http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/Res...?PartNo=NN10143 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P3x 56 #3 Posted September 11, 2011 In case you want options to purchase/cross ref. compatible oil filters here's some additional PNs: Toro: NN10143 Onan:122-0800 Sten:120-517 Wix-51762 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben06351 19 #4 Posted September 23, 2011 I know it's a bit late but... I just rebuilt my 520HC with the Onan 20 it was a total tear down broken connecting rod, anyway Fram----------------PH3600 just put it on my 520hc With Onan 20hp :thumbs2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebo-(Moderator) 8,351 #5 Posted September 24, 2011 I tried the Fram 3600 but it was too long and I could not get it to fit. I ended up with a mobil filter for $13. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MalMac 1,331 #6 Posted September 26, 2011 Off the top of my head I can't remember but I have a 90 520 and a 94 520 one takes a shorter filter than the other. I found out the hard way. I think it's the 90 that takes the shorter one. I ask a Toro dealer about this and he confirmed that yes there is some that take a shorter filter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrc 840 #7 Posted September 28, 2011 hi steve, i use and have used car quest #85764. the nice thing about this filter is it has fit every onan 20 hp engine i ever had. it is a bit longer thus holding more oil. (more is better in my book) AND it has a 1 inch nut welded to the back side for easy snugging up and removal. hope this helps you. mike in mass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SAM58 30 #8 Posted September 28, 2011 :thumbs2: THIS IS A LIST OF PARTS THAT I HAVE USED... Engine Oil filter WIX 51762 Transmission filter WIX 51410 Main Drive Belt 114895 Mower Drive Belt 113072 48" DECK Mower Belt 112449 48" DECK Mower Blades KIT 112947 Fuel Filter WIX 3133 - MANY DIFFERENT ONES WILL FIT Air Filter WIX 46094 Spark Plugs Champion RH14-YC .025 inch gap Fuses System Fuse 30 Amp Gauge Fuse 25 Amp Light Fuse 15 Amp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,012 #9 Posted October 4, 2011 THIS IS A LIST OF PARTS THAT I HAVE USED... Engine Oil filter WIX 51762 Transmission filter WIX 51410 Main Drive Belt 114895 Mower Drive Belt 113072 48" DECK Mower Belt 112449 48" DECK Mower Blades KIT 112947 Fuel Filter WIX 3133 - MANY DIFFERENT ONES WILL FIT Air Filter WIX 46094 Spark Plugs Champion RH14-YC .025 inch gap Fuses System Fuse 30 Amp Gauge Fuse 25 Amp Light Fuse 15 Amp Sam on the Spark Plug dont you mean a Champion # RC14-YC instead of a RH14-YC ? My Parts doode doesnt show those and not much on a Google Search either. On the RC's there are over 10 pages on the RH only 2. The reason why I ask is cause I need a set for my 520H. Thanks for the other grocery list. Oh and on the Wix filter does it have an ANTI drain back valve? I wouldnt use it if it does cause the toro's dont have them and the ant drainback valve restricts flow. ~Duke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheesegrader 433 #10 Posted October 5, 2011 Napa 1762, Napa 1374 Wix 51762, Wix 51374 The Fram 3600 at 4 3/4" was on when I got it. A little too long to fit perfectly, but possible to get in if you are willing to bend things just a bit. I believe the Napa Gold filters do not have the anti drain back seal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,012 #11 Posted October 5, 2011 Napa 1762, Napa 1374 Wix 51762, Wix 51374 The Fram 3600 at 4 3/4" was on when I got it. A little too long to fit perfectly, but possible to get in if you are willing to bend things just a bit. I believe the Napa Gold filters do not have the anti drain back seal. On the Napa filters you listed above they do have anti drain valves ( had a friend of mine just now physically check ) and that is good because they are engine filters. What I am referring to is the tranny filter, for some reason toro does not have a Anti drain valve in them, I know cause I cut them open along with a few others. For some reason, and I would suspect that reason was they didn't was to restrict the flow. I just had my Nappa guy pull the Wix 51410 and it does not have a Anti drain back valve so this number is good in my book! Cost $ 10.21 cents which is $ 5.91 Cheaper that the toro one. Read about this and see the Filter Cutaways on a prior thread of mine. Hydro Filter Discussion and Cut Away Pictures Cheers ~Duke :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbotelho 1 #12 Posted October 5, 2011 hi Guys, can you help me out too steve bos dad, I need the oil filter # for a 417a hydro filter thanks Big Jim filter is for the tranny /transaxle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,012 #13 Posted October 5, 2011 hi Guys, can you help me out too steve bos dad, I need the oil filter # for a 417a hydro filter thanks Big Jim filter is for the tranny /transaxle Jim the one I have listed above which is the Wix 51410 that one will work just fine. Should be cheaper too. ~Duke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbotelho 1 #14 Posted October 5, 2011 Thanks very much duke!!! :thumbs2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,012 #15 Posted October 6, 2011 Thanks very much duke!!! Your welcome Big Jim! ~Duke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SAM58 30 #16 Posted October 6, 2011 THIS IS A LIST OF PARTS THAT I HAVE USED... Engine Oil filter WIX 51762 Transmission filter WIX 51410 Main Drive Belt 114895 Mower Drive Belt 113072 48" DECK Mower Belt 112449 48" DECK Mower Blades KIT 112947 Fuel Filter WIX 3133 - MANY DIFFERENT ONES WILL FIT Air Filter WIX 46094 Spark Plugs Champion RH14-YC .025 inch gap Fuses System Fuse 30 Amp Gauge Fuse 25 Amp Light Fuse 15 Amp Sam on the Spark Plug dont you mean a Champion # RC14-YC instead of a RH14-YC ? My Parts doode doesnt show those and not much on a Google Search either. On the RC's there are over 10 pages on the RH only 2. The reason why I ask is cause I need a set for my 520H. Thanks for the other grocery list. Oh and on the Wix filter does it have an ANTI drain back valve? I wouldnt use it if it does cause the toro's dont have them and the ant drainback valve restricts flow. ~Duke Duke, You right about the spark plug, typo... The Wix filter DOES NOT have the anti drain back valve. I bought my first 520H last Feb. and read a lot about the filters before I decided to try them. Should be the same as a Toro OEM filter. Mine had worked great without any problems. I have changed it twice so far. Thanks for the correction :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,012 #17 Posted October 7, 2011 THIS IS A LIST OF PARTS THAT I HAVE USED... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick 13 #18 Posted October 7, 2011 Never seen a discussion of anti drainback valves on the hydraulic filters. I thought that more importantly the hydraulic filters had no by-pass valve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,012 #19 Posted October 7, 2011 Never seen a discussion of anti drainback valves on the hydraulic filters. I thought that more importantly the hydraulic filters had no by-pass valve. Well that is important, but I guess / Toro whatever thought it importand not to install an anti drainback valve, as I mentioned before in a prior post. Anything thats in the way of that oil is restriction thats most likely is why the engineers at Toro dont deem it neccesary to install one. ~Duke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick 13 #20 Posted October 7, 2011 If Toro didnt use an anti drainback valve its probably not a bad idea to do the same even if its not a problem. I did notice though that the WIX site says an anti drainback valve can improve oil flow. http://www.wixfilters.com/productinformation/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorseFixer 2,012 #21 Posted October 8, 2011 If Toro didnt use an anti drainback valve its probably not a bad idea to do the same even if its not a problem. I did notice though that the WIX site says an anti drainback valve can improve oil flow. http://www.wixfilters.com/productinformation/index.html Examining the picture below of an AMSOIL cutaway most filters have the same Basic construction Nick (I like my diagram better cause it names the parts!) Anyway lets first look at how the oil flows, The oil enters the small outer holes then has to open the Anti Drain Valve which opens like an umbrella the oil then enters the filter chamber goes thru the filter through that Tube screen that keeps the filter from colapsing and out the center hole. If the filter is plugged then it pushes against the bypass valve applying pressure to the end spring opening the bypass valve and out the return hole same as before. Now I'm not an enginner but I am a Pipe fitter, and I know damn well anytime a substance (any substance) flows thru anything there is friction. In this case the pressure that it takes to open that Anti Drain Valve. I'm not arguing with you Nick, but rather the Idiots who wrote that misleading incorrect data for WIX, They need to go see the WIZARD OF OZ and get a brain cause the Ole' Duke aint buying it. Everything has friction even air flowing thru ductwork when I had my HVAC buisness when designing a furnace system air flowing thru ducts and pipes were measured in Static normally .01 in a residential system. This is how we determin the pipe or duct size and number of outlets for a certain amount of CFM. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junebug 0 #22 Posted March 20, 2013 I know this is an old post but in case someone needs the info. My manual says that my 1990 520H takes a RS14YC not RH ! I don't know if the manual is a typo or not haven't had time to see what's in the mower yet ! But did call a couple of automotive stores and they couldn't tell me what it took because had no listing for it.. I just got a 520 myself and have been checking into it.. also..was wanting help on the oil filter to !! Now I know thanks guys for the input ! THIS IS A LIST OF PARTS THAT I HAVE USED... Engine Oil filter WIX 51762 Transmission filter WIX 51410 Main Drive Belt 114895 Mower Drive Belt 113072 48" DECK Mower Belt 112449 48" DECK Mower Blades KIT 112947 Fuel Filter WIX 3133 - MANY DIFFERENT ONES WILL FIT Air Filter WIX 46094 Spark Plugs Champion RH14-YC .025 inch gap Fuses System Fuse 30 Amp Gauge Fuse 25 Amp Light Fuse 15 Amp Sam on the Spark Plug dont you mean a Champion # RC14-YC instead of a RH14-YC ? My Parts doode doesnt show those and not much on a Google Search either. On the RC's there are over 10 pages on the RH only 2. The reason why I ask is cause I need a set for my 520H. Thanks for the other grocery list. Oh and on the Wix filter does it have an ANTI drain back valve? I wouldnt use it if it does cause the toro's dont have them and the ant drainback valve restricts flow. ~Duke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tankman 3,518 #23 Posted March 22, 2013 I know it's a bit late but... I just rebuilt my 520HC with the Onan 20 it was a total tear down broken connecting rod, anyway Fram----------------PH3600 just put it on my 520hc With Onan 20hp I'm using Fram also, a good fit, inexpensive too. The filter I removed (brand unknown?) was too long, a bit difficult to get out. Fram from now on for my 520-8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobert94 38 #24 Posted April 13, 2013 The short version of the fram filter is 3614 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick 235 #25 Posted April 18, 2013 Re: spark plugs Champion RS17YX seems to be the latest recommendation for the P216G and P220G, gap still .025 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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