WH854 44 #1 Posted August 10, 2011 I have a C-165 auto I am thinking about making it an 8 speed!! Automatic is handy for some things,but not for others,for instance you have to keep adjusting the lever all the time,ties up one hand. My place is not level I have to slow down going down hill, speed up going up hill. that is just one idea. an 8 speed you put it in gear and you don't have to fuss with it untill you want to change gears. I have every thing to change it over, mechanical lift, 8 speed transmission , break pedal,break rods, shift plate for 8 speed, dash plate for 8 speed,deck adjuster quadrant,break spring, idler arm and pully setup. Have I left any thing out? Any one have any ideas or remarks on the subject? Also any advise. Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dockfishin 51 #2 Posted August 10, 2011 Sounds like a good excuse to buy another one or maybe get the foot pedal set up for it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #3 Posted August 10, 2011 Sounds like a good excuse to buy another one or maybe get the foot pedal set up for it? Don't have room for another one,that foot pedal setup would cost more than the tractor. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Road-Track 39 #4 Posted August 10, 2011 DOC in Kentucky makes the reproduction 8-3900 hydro pedal attachments. It must be cheaper and less work than a conversion? Here is the pedal set-up on my C145. Attached Image Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #5 Posted August 10, 2011 DOC in Kentucky makes the reproduction 8-3900 hydro pedal attachments. It must be cheaper and less work than a conversion? Here is the pedal set-up on my C145. I have all the parts to convert it to an 8 speed. That foot pedal will run close to $400.00 to put on ( just a guess) that has been mentioned on here before. Thanks anyway Besides I have a lot of time anyway Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dockfishin 51 #6 Posted August 10, 2011 the 145 is hydraulic lift right? do you have the manual lift mechanism for the conversion also? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #7 Posted August 10, 2011 the 145 is hydraulic lift right? do you have the manual lift mechanism for the conversion also? IF you read my first post I think I mentioned all the parts for the conversion Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #8 Posted August 10, 2011 I have a C-165 auto I am thinking about making it an 8 speed!! Automatic is handy for some things,but not for others,for instance you have to keep adjusting the lever all the time,ties up one hand. My place is not level I have to slow down going down hill, speed up going up hill. that is just one idea. an 8 speed you put it in gear and you don't have to fuss with it untill you want to change gears. I have every thing to change it over, mechanical lift, 8 speed transmission , break pedal,break rods, shift plate for 8 speed, dash plate for 8 speed,deck adjuster quadrant,break spring, idler arm and pully setup. Have I left any thing out? Any one have any ideas or remarks on the subject? Also any advise. Chas This is another reason I am thinking of making my C-165 Auto an 8 speed A redo of this 8 speed http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/index.php?showtopic=22465 Want to see if my redo will work Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,634 #9 Posted August 11, 2011 Engine pulley is different also I believe. (or did you include that in your idler statement?) Also you mention brakes twice but I didn't see clutch pedal and linkage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 11,866 #10 Posted August 11, 2011 Engine pulley is different also I believe. Yes it is, but he'll have to buy a new belt regardless. We've all seen folks trade out larger pulleys up front to make tractors faster, so finding a belt to work should not be an issue. It's possible that you'll get a fairly quick 8-speed tractor from that setup, and 16 hp will be plenty strong enough to handle it. Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #11 Posted August 11, 2011 Engine pulley is different also I believe. (or did you include that in your idler statement?) Also you mention brakes twice but I didn't see clutch pedal and linkage. They are on the way(Clutch assembly) Engine pulley I have Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #12 Posted August 11, 2011 Engine pulley is different also I believe. Yes it is, but he'll have to buy a new belt regardless. We've all seen folks trade out larger pulleys up front to make tractors faster, so finding a belt to work should not be an issue. It's possible that you'll get a fairly quick 8-speed tractor from that setup, and 16 hp will be plenty strong enough to handle it. Good luck! The belt is the same belt as the one on my C-105 8 speed. Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #13 Posted August 15, 2011 I Started on the redo on the 11th of August This is how far I have gotten First picture is with the seat and fender pan off The next on with gas tank off The next one I am taking the hydro lift system off another one The next one shows what I had to do To get the yoke of. The next one with t Mechanical lift installed. The next one with the auto transmission removed The next one shows the 8 speed installed. THe next one with the wheels back on the eight speed That is all for now be back again Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #14 Posted August 16, 2011 Did some more work on the old girl today Got the gas tank and seat mount back on. Got the clutch linkages on. The brake system back on. The next one is The Shifters installed Thats all for today Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #15 Posted August 17, 2011 Did some more work today Here are more pictures. This one shows the break system and gear shift some of the clutch system. THe next one shows pulling the drive pulley. The next one shows the drive pully removed. This one shows the PTO installed with a new belt on. This one shows the clutch spring and the break band and break linkage. The next one shows the pulley I took off( the Big one), the other one is the one I put on. The next one is A 5/8 x 82" Huskee Belt From TSC The next one shows getting ready for fender pan and seat. The next one shows the new belt installed. I think that is all for today ( I THINK I GOT THEM ALL IN ORDER ) Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #16 Posted August 18, 2011 Well I got the old girl changed over to an 8 speed But when I got on her and fired her up. I tried to put her in gear, there was a grinding of gears.What the %$#@ You have to push the clutch in you jerk So I pushed on the clutch Put her in reverse and backed her out of the shed. Put the Hi-Lo in low hmm That works! Put it back in hi third down the drive way I went lickety Split. pushed in on the break pedal slide both back wheels They work Too I said. So I fooled around checking all the gears out no jumping out of gear. All in All turned out today was a good day for me Hey Steveasarus thank you for the tutoral on uni-drive transmissions I have some pictures of the finished project This goes to show you if you put your mind into the jobyou can do it. Enjoy the pictures Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 993 #17 Posted August 19, 2011 excellent job,i love how iterchangeable these machines are,hydro today,8 speed tomorow :thumbs2: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #18 Posted August 20, 2011 excellent job,i love how iterchangeable these machines are,hydro today,8 speed tomorow Don I had her out giving her a shake down cruise today,every thing working as it should A couple of pictures of her. If I can do it anyone can do it!!!! Chas :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zieg72 209 #19 Posted August 20, 2011 Nice, I almost did that to a 520H but decided against it. I would have kept the larger pulley on the engine but that is just me... Turned out great!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #20 Posted December 18, 2011 :woohoo: Thought I would bring my C-165 Auto to C-165 8 speed back to the front Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wheelhorse656 20 #21 Posted December 18, 2011 Good looking tractor Chas!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fourwheels0 191 #22 Posted December 18, 2011 i was gonna do that to my c-165 using a c-105 8 speed as the doner but with my health issues i decided it's just too much work for me to do. i think yours came out great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RJR49 129 #23 Posted April 25, 2012 He must not have a snow blower or he never would have gotten rid of the hydro lift Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bo dawg 516 #24 Posted April 25, 2012 Good job!! Nice looking tractor too, I like it! I myself would rather mow with a hydro it is easier for trimming around all my dag blasted trees and everything else. I mowed to day with my recent 8 speed find and its ok, don't get me wrong, but having to change from reverse to forward kind of sucks. Plus for me 2nd gear is too slow and 3rd too fast. So cut in 3rd with clutch push in some to slow it down a bit which is more of a hassle then keeping hand on hydro lever. But it's a blast to use over all and has its purposes. Just my thoughts :confusion-shrug: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WH854 44 #25 Posted May 5, 2012 He must not have a snow blower or he never would have gotten rid of the hydro lift Well mate i am not a 98LB weakling, and I do have a snow blower with an assist spring Chas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
