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C-165 Auto to C-165 8 Speed

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WH854

I have a C-165 auto I am thinking about making it an 8 speed!! Automatic is handy for some things,but not for others,for instance you have to keep adjusting the lever all the time,ties up one hand. My place is not level I have to slow down going down hill, speed up going up hill. that is just one idea. an 8 speed you put it in gear and you don't have to fuss with it untill you want to change gears. I have every thing to change it over, mechanical lift, 8 speed transmission , break pedal,break rods, shift plate for 8 speed, dash plate for 8 speed,deck adjuster quadrant,break spring, idler arm and pully setup. Have I left any thing out? Any one have any ideas or remarks on the subject? Also any advise. :woohoo::D

Chas

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Dockfishin

Sounds like a good excuse to buy another one :woohoo: or maybe get the foot pedal set up for it?

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WH854

Sounds like a good excuse to buy another one :woohoo: or maybe get the foot pedal set up for it?

Don't have room for another one,that foot pedal setup would cost more than the tractor. :D

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Road-Track

DOC in Kentucky makes the reproduction 8-3900 hydro pedal attachments.

It must be cheaper and less work than a conversion?

Here is the pedal set-up on my C145.

:woohoo:

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WH854

DOC in Kentucky makes the reproduction 8-3900 hydro pedal attachments.

It must be cheaper and less work than a conversion?

Here is the pedal set-up on my C145.

:woohoo:

I have all the parts to convert it to an 8 speed. That foot pedal will run close to $400.00 to put on ( just a guess) that has been mentioned on here before. Thanks anyway :D Besides I have a lot of time anyway :ROTF:

Chas

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Dockfishin

the 145 is hydraulic lift right? do you have the manual lift mechanism for the conversion also?

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WH854

the 145 is hydraulic lift right? do you have the manual lift mechanism for the conversion also?

IF you read my first post I think I mentioned all the parts for the conversion :woohoo:

Chas

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WH854

I have a C-165 auto I am thinking about making it an 8 speed!! Automatic is handy for some things,but not for others,for instance you have to keep adjusting the lever all the time,ties up one hand. My place is not level I have to slow down going down hill, speed up going up hill. that is just one idea. an 8 speed you put it in gear and you don't have to fuss with it untill you want to change gears. I have every thing to change it over, mechanical lift, 8 speed transmission , break pedal,break rods, shift plate for 8 speed, dash plate for 8 speed,deck adjuster quadrant,break spring, idler arm and pully setup. Have I left any thing out? Any one have any ideas or remarks on the subject? Also any advise. :woohoo::D

Chas

This is another reason I am thinking of making my C-165 Auto an 8 speed A redo of this 8 speed :D

http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/index.php?showtopic=22465

Want to see if my redo will work :ROTF:

Chas

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pfrederi

Engine pulley is different also I believe. (or did you include that in your idler statement?)

Also you mention brakes twice but I didn't see clutch pedal and linkage.

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kpinnc

Engine pulley is different also I believe.

Yes it is, but he'll have to buy a new belt regardless.

We've all seen folks trade out larger pulleys up front to make tractors faster, so finding a belt to work should not be an issue.

It's possible that you'll get a fairly quick 8-speed tractor from that setup, and 16 hp will be plenty strong enough to handle it.

Good luck!

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WH854

Engine pulley is different also I believe. (or did you include that in your idler statement?)

Also you mention brakes twice but I didn't see clutch pedal and linkage.

They are on the way(Clutch assembly) :woohoo: Engine pulley I have :D

Chas

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WH854

Engine pulley is different also I believe.

Yes it is, but he'll have to buy a new belt regardless.

We've all seen folks trade out larger pulleys up front to make tractors faster, so finding a belt to work should not be an issue.

It's possible that you'll get a fairly quick 8-speed tractor from that setup, and 16 hp will be plenty strong enough to handle it.

Good luck!

The belt is the same belt as the one on my C-105 8 speed. :woohoo:

Chas

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WH854

I Started on the redo on the 11th of August This is how far I have gotten :woohoo:

First picture is with the seat and fender pan off

C-165GasTankFenderPan.jpg

The next on with gas tank off

C-165GasTankOFF.jpg

The next one I am taking the hydro lift system off

C-165AutoLift.jpg

another one

PullingLift-1.jpg

The next one shows what I had to do To get the yoke of.

BrokenHydroLift.jpg

The next one with t Mechanical lift installed.

MechanicalLift.jpg

The next one with the auto transmission removed

EatonTransmission.jpg

The next one shows the 8 speed installed.

8SpeedInstaled.jpg

THe next one with the wheels back on the eight speed

8Speedwithwheelson.jpg

That is all for now be back again :D

Chas

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WH854

Did some more work on the old girl today :D

Got the gas tank and seat mount back on.

C-165GasTankInstalled.jpg

Got the clutch linkages on.

Clutchpedalinstalled.jpg

The brake system back on.

BrakePedalInstalled.jpg

The next one is The Shifters installed

CheckingTheshiftC-165.jpg

Thats all for today :woohoo:

Chas

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WH854

Did some more work today Here are more pictures. :woohoo:

This one shows the break system and gear shift some of the clutch system.

ShowbreakSystem.jpg

THe next one shows pulling the drive pulley.

RemovingDrivePulley.jpg

The next one shows the drive pully removed.

DrivePullyRemoved.jpg

This one shows the PTO installed with a new belt on.

PTOInstalled.jpg

This one shows the clutch spring and the break band and break linkage.

ClutchSpringBreakBand.jpg

The next one shows the pulley I took off( the Big one), the other one is the one I put on.

MoterPulleys.jpg

The next one is A 5/8 x 82" Huskee Belt From TSC

82InchBelt.jpg

The next one shows getting ready for fender pan and seat.

ReadyForFenderSeat.jpg

The next one shows the new belt installed.

ClutchIdler.jpg

I think that is all for today ( I THINK I GOT THEM ALL IN ORDER :D )

Chas

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WH854

Well I got the old girl changed over to an 8 speed :D But when I got on her and fired her up. I tried to put her in gear, there was a grinding of gears.What the %$#@ :thumbs2: You have to push the clutch in you jerk :banghead: So I pushed on the clutch :ROTF: Put her in reverse and backed her out of the shed. Put the Hi-Lo in low hmm That works! Put it back in hi third down the drive way I went lickety Split. pushed in on the break pedal slide both back wheels :D They work Too I said. So I fooled around checking all the gears out no jumping out of gear. All in All turned out today was a good day for me :banghead:

Hey Steveasarus thank you for the tutoral on uni-drive transmissions :thumbs:

I have some pictures of the finished project :thumbs:

C-165RIGHT.jpg

C-165LEFT.jpg

C-165Front.jpg

C-165-BACK.jpg

C-165DASH.jpg

This goes to show you if you put your mind into the jobyou can do it. :USA:

:thanks: Enjoy the pictures

Chas

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can whlvr

excellent job,i love how iterchangeable these machines are,hydro today,8 speed tomorow :thumbs2:

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WH854

excellent job,i love how iterchangeable these machines are,hydro today,8 speed tomorow :thumbs2:

:banghead: Don

I had her out giving her a shake down cruise today,every thing working as it should :banghead::thumbs:

A couple of pictures of her.

C-165LeftSide.jpg

C-165RightSide.jpg

If I can do it anyone can do it!!!! :D

Chas :thumbs:

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zieg72

Nice, I almost did that to a 520H but decided against it. I would have kept the larger pulley on the engine but that is just me... Turned out great!!!

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WH854

:woohoo: Thought I would bring my C-165 Auto to C-165 8 speed back to the front :ROTF::USA:

Chas

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wheelhorse656

Good looking tractor Chas!!!!!!!!!!!

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fourwheels0

i was gonna do that to my c-165 using a c-105 8 speed as the doner but with my health issues i decided it's just too much work for me to do.

i think yours came out great.

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RJR49

He must not have a snow blower or he never would have gotten rid of the hydro lift

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bo dawg

Good job!! Nice looking tractor too, I like it!

I myself would rather mow with a hydro it is easier for trimming around all my dag blasted trees and everything else. I mowed to day with my recent 8 speed find and its ok, don't get me wrong, but having to change from reverse to forward kind of sucks. Plus for me 2nd gear is too slow and 3rd too fast. So cut in 3rd with clutch push in some to slow it down a bit which is more of a hassle then keeping hand on hydro lever. But it's a blast to use over all and has its purposes. Just my thoughts :confusion-shrug:

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WH854

He must not have a snow blower or he never would have gotten rid of the hydro lift

Well mate i am not a 98LB weakling, and I do have a snow blower with an assist spring :thumbs:

Chas

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