D3R3K 0 #1 Posted May 3, 2011 if i run my c-160 for a while the transmission gets weak, and doesnt have much power, such as going up hills or even better backing in my shed. any ideas? :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c175inMA 8 #2 Posted May 3, 2011 I would try changing the fluid and filter. also could try adjusting the linkage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D3R3K 0 #3 Posted May 3, 2011 yeah gotta try that, it ran fine in the winter time, ran 3 tanks of fuel non-stop and never had a problem but now that its warm out it seems like now its actin up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,325 #4 Posted May 3, 2011 I had almost the exact same thing happen to my C-160. Plowed all winter like a bear. Now it will barely get out of it's own way. It's at the shop now. I don't know how soon i'll find out what happened. Changing the fluid and filter did not help. Try opening up the tow valve and see if the tractor will roll. Mine won't. It feels like something has gotten bound up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 993 #5 Posted May 3, 2011 sorry to say but its usually a sign of o worn out pump,i too have a c160auto that i had to have the pump rebuilt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D3R3K 0 #6 Posted May 3, 2011 i have a spare trans that came with the tractor, becasue when i got it it didnt move. so i found this walve on the lefthand side near the foot board that has a slit in it took it out, cranked some fluid out and, wala! it started moving. so basicallly it sounds like i need a new pump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveoman1966 3,762 #7 Posted May 3, 2011 Your hydro oump and hydro motor are worn out and need overhaul / rebuild. Been there.. done that. ps... I rebuild these.. send me an off-site email if interested. I am located in n/w PA at zip 16433. my email is: daveoman@windstream.net Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dresden Guy 24 #8 Posted May 3, 2011 sorry to say but its usually a sign of o worn out pump,i too have a c160auto that i had to have the pump rebuilt Sounds like we need to form a C-160 Malfunctioning Hydro support group! My C-160 is sitting in the front yard until I get out there to open the push-valve and get it to the "hospital" ........... Same scenario with my C-160, ran fine and then it became a front yard monument, zero forward or backward! I will go buy a new WH filter and change the oil to see if that helps. Will check for belt slippage. What did your rebuild cost? I can buy a C-161/hydro/hydraulic lift parts tractor (less the motor) for $50. I know there is no guarantee that that hydro has any better prognosis, but I'm sure it less expensive than a rebuild! However, at times I have a tendency to be "penny-wise, and pound foolish" - know what I mean? What's everyone in the C-160 hydro support group think??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mavfreak 11 #9 Posted May 3, 2011 Ok you guys are scaring me away from the hydros. I have been looking for a hydro for the wife to use and I keep seeing postings about hydro problems and how costly they are and not to open them up and work on yourself. Scary to me. Think i'll hold off on a hydro for now :thumbs: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,866 #10 Posted May 3, 2011 My preference is for 8 speeds. However hydros do have some nice features. Problem is trying to buy a good one. if it is in good shape and you take care of it it will last a really long time. To get one in good shape is the issue. Auctions are not a good place (personal experience here) as all they do is start it and show that it moves. Ebay not much better unless the seller will really let you work it and you are prepared to walk away You really need to get to work it get it fully heated up then see how she maintains speed on steep hills and put her up against a wall and see if she will spin her wheels on cement with you on it. If it passes the test and you change oil and filter regularly she may out last you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,325 #11 Posted May 3, 2011 sorry to say but its usually a sign of o worn out pump,i too have a c160auto that i had to have the pump rebuilt Sounds like we need to form a C-160 Malfunctioning Hydro support group! My C-160 is sitting in the front yard until I get out there to open the push-valve and get it to the "hospital" ........... Same scenario with my C-160, ran fine and then it became a front yard monument, zero forward or backward! I will go buy a new WH filter and change the oil to see if that helps. Will check for belt slippage. What did your rebuild cost? I can buy a C-161/hydro/hydraulic lift parts tractor (less the motor) for $50. I know there is no guarantee that that hydro has any better prognosis, but I'm sure it less expensive than a rebuild! However, at times I have a tendency to be "penny-wise, and pound foolish" - know what I mean? What's everyone in the C-160 hydro support group think??? I just stopped at a local mower grave yard. $160 for a tractor with the hydro,frame 4 wheels/tires and steering components. I think you did good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
can whlvr 993 #12 Posted May 4, 2011 as for cost to rebuild,i had my sundstrand rebuilt at a shop that does only hyrostatic pumps,he did it for me for cash,this was a complete rebuild,new retainer rings,every thing that it needed,350.00 and he told me it should be more than double that,im VERY pleased with it,worth every penny to me,ya i have a spare pump and tranny,but i know that the rebuilt will be good for a long,long time,if you can get a 161 for 50 bucks go for it,or talk to daveoman1966 and see what he charges,its worth getting these 160s running,they are amazing tractors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,325 #13 Posted May 4, 2011 I priced out a rebuild from a place in Minnesota. $1100!! Yikes!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brrly1 1,146 #14 Posted May 4, 2011 If it is rebuildable I think Daveoman sounds like the way to go. He is a whole lot cheaper than $1100 dollars. That is even for the pump and motor. Squonk, you might want to contact him, I am going swapmeetin' this weekend, I hope to find something there. Time will tell, Jones , Mich this weekend and Portland in a couple weeks. If not its time to go back to the hydrogear. Not real sure on that one. :wh: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D3R3K 0 #15 Posted May 5, 2011 Today I picked up my spare rear end and am going to try to swap the hydros, anything needed to know before other than I need the gaskets? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites