tractor info

[boatman 3]

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Was wondering how much differance between gt 14 and a 1054 model?

Also what is hp on 1054, it has a k-231 motor. I am not familiar with

that one. which tractor would be better to have as a working tractor in

the garden? Plow rototiller etc?

[JimD 3,345]

Was wondering how much differance between gt 14 and a 1054 model?

Also what is hp on 1054, it has a k-231 motor. I am not familiar with

that one. which tractor would be better to have as a working tractor in

the garden? Plow rototiller etc?

the 1054 has a 10hp engine, while the gt14 has a 14hp engine. while both tractors will handle the garden work, if i had a choice, i'd pick the gt14. i'm sure opinions will vary. i don't really know that much about these machines other than what i've learned here.

[jaydeer 14]

I have had both and definitely prefer the GT-14. The GT-14 had in my opinion a better rear fenders, a rear end, and also since there are more of them around, getting parts is a lot easier. The 1054 is a nice machine, especially for the time it was built, but the GT14 improved on that design and increased hp while maintaining basically the same look.

[Brrly1 1,146]

Hello, The 953,1954,and the 1054a were considered the predessor to the GT14. The GT14 would be able to power a tiller where as a 1054 would pull a tiller along with its on separate power plant. You can't put a three point on a 1054. Where as you can with the GT14. The 1054 has the smaller axles, I believe that they are 1" axles where the GT14 has an 1 1/8" axle. Basically the 1054 is a little more delicate of a tractor than The Beast of a tractor, GT14. I don't them as well as a couple other guys here in the square but I am learning as it was the first Wheel Horse tractor that I was around as a kid and I now have my Dad's GT14. I guess that's my opinion and I think I am entitled to it. Have a Great Day. See Ya, Bye Burly

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[boatman 3]

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Thanks guys for info on gt 14 vs 1054. was just curious. defenatly

the 3pt hitch and more hp would be nice as well as heavier axles.

[linen beige 14]

The 1054 has the smaller axles, I believe that they are 1" axles where the GT14 has an 1 1/8" axle.

My 1054A has the 1 1/8th axles.

I can't believe no one has mentioned the biggest difference. The 1054 has a 3 speed manual transmission with a hydro lift, the GT-14 has a hydrostatic transmission. By some estimates the hydro trans uses 4 HP to operate, which takes the 14 HP down to the same 10 HP as the 1054, but I'm not too sure that's accurate.

As much as I love my 1054A, and as much as I don't really care for hydros, I'd say if you're going to work it the GT-14 is the one to get.

[Brrly1 1,146]

Jim, I thought I had seen an earlier post where they only had the 1" axles, maybe it was 953, but there again I am still learning and I also thought that throughout the years that they only attributed a 2 hp loss to the hydrostatic transmissions.

Still Learning. Theres not a day goes by that I don't learn one thing or another.

See Ya, Bye Burly

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[Rollerman 290]

The 1963 953, 64 1054, & 55 1054A all preceeded the GT14 & all are considered "Large Frames"

Like Jim has mentioned the 953/1054/1054A had a three speed manual with the 1 1/8th axels & used a seperate hydraulic pump to lift the implements.

All three used a K241 Kohler engine, but the earlier 953 had a slightly lower HP.

In 63 they were rated at 9.5 (some odd number?) then bumped to 10HP from 64 on.

953/1054/1054A also used unitized body work, the rear fenders & body work are welded to the frame makeing them a little more tricky to work on & no provision for a factory 3PH like John mentioned but they do have the lift feature on the Wheelhorse slot hitch & are a great garden plowing tractor.

There were upgrades to the steering, trans, headlights, hydraulic pump, tires & wheels to the early large frames in there 3 year production.

Mower decks are exclusive to them & finding some of the replacements for worn deck hanger parts & the deck itself is getting tricky.

There a nice tractor if you really want one for the collection or know your way around them.

The GT14's came out in 69 as a successor to the early large frames with a hydrostatic drive, optional 3PH with an optional lift circuit, an electric PTO clutch, a PTO powered rear tiller, body panels that could be disassembled for easier maintanance & improved rear differential.

Implements for the GT's are a little easier to come buy & share a few parts with other common models makeing it easier to locate parts...IMOP

One thing to watch out for on the GT14's is the fuel tank...it's plastic & the muffler run's right past it often burning a whole in the tank after years of use or a missing heat sheild.

Also the 69 GT's had an open front grille with an exposed fuel tank makeing them prone to punctures from hitting things.

The 70 on models had an enclosed grille.

I've had both styles of the large frames & for a worker would go with the GT....I don't think the parisitical HP loss from the hydro trans is enough that you'd notice it.

Boatman hope this helps

[Lane Ranger 10,943]

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The 1054 is a beast and the GT-14 is a bigger beast!

Jim (linen beige) is correct that 1 and 1/8 axles are on the 1054's.

Maybe no three point but you can have an "three in one" drawbar hitch with clevis, ball and pin hitch with a little work

We have not owned a GT-14 and we are partial to the 1054's ! But as long as we can keeping running let's use them!

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[boatman 3]

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Thanks guys, there was a alot of good info there.I am really learning

alot from ya all here on red sq. This is a great place with a wealth of

info, engineering ideas. Have really enjoyed this forum for the short

time I've been here. Thanks too all!!!!!!!!!! I need to find out when

and where the wheel Horse shows are. I think it would be a great

experiance to attend one.

[boatman 3]

:party:

I was just digesting all the in for on 1054 tractor and gt 14. Ya all say the

1054 has a 3 speed trans. Will a new 8 speed trans bold up to this tractor

with out alot of modification?? Just wondering. I guess for a work tractor

garden plowing and possbly a front end loader, I feel a manual trans

might hold up the best. I haven't had my 312H long enough to use it. B)

[fritz 1]

Sorry to get kind of off topic, but what are the values on the Gt14 and the 1054??? I have known where one is for about a year but i have always been scared to get involved in a diffrent type of wheel horse like them. The one that i know where it is at. is all there. it has a deck. no 3 point hitch. it has been repainted and it wasnt a good job. but he says it runs and drive good. I just think the money is a little bit to much to chance it on.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Devin

[Rollerman 290]

I was just digesting all the in for on 1054 tractor and gt 14. Ya all say the

1054 has a 3 speed trans. Will a new 8 speed trans bold up to this tractor

with out alot of modification?? Just wondering. I guess for a work tractor

garden plowing and possbly a front end loader, I feel a manual trans

might hold up the best. I haven't had my 312H long enough to use it.

Not without a fare amount of parts swapping & fabricateing.

The axles in the 953/1054/1054A cases are longer than whats offered in the 8 speeds.

Also the axles in the 8 speeds are retained with a snap ring & the 953-1054A are held in place with a roll pin.

Another snag...the cases in the 953-1054A may look the same on the outside, but they have there own unique bolt pattern where they bolt to the frame.

Sorry to get kind of off topic, but what are the values on the Gt14 and the 1054??? I have known where one is for about a year but i have always been scared to get involved in a diffrent type of wheel horse like them. The one that i know where it is at. is all there. it has a deck. no 3 point hitch. it has been repainted and it wasnt a good job. but he says it runs and drive good. I just think the money is a little bit to much to chance it on.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Devin

Devin if you mean a GT14...probably not worth anymore than you'd pay for a badly painted C series.

The 3PH & tiller brings the value up some...without them it's just a big mower. B)

[linen beige 14]

In 63 they were rated at 9.5 (some odd number?)

9.6 H.P.

http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1056

3rd post down. Reckon that extra 0.1 H.P. was for the lift pump? B)