Sinner

[MikesRJ 552]

Bless me fellers for I have sinned.

Spent the entire day at a friends house tearing down his 1969 IH-Cub Cadet 107.

It now sits on Jack-stands completely torn down to the frame. The engine is going to the local Vo-Tech to be rebuilt on Monday. I think I have him hooked on restoring, and perhaps seriously thinking about WH as his next ride.

[Indy w h 5]

I know your pain Mike, I've got three buddy's ate-up with cub-itis

Indy :thumbs:

[MikesRJ 552]

Having the recently acquired intimate knowledge of the horse breed that I currently possess, I can honestly say that the Cubs got nothing on a WH.

IMHO, They are over-engineered POS's with absolutely no functional ergonomics whatsoever. Though I do have to admit that this '69 cub is fairly stoutly built, but it has the grace of a Sherman tank. I rode it into the garage and I didn't like it as soon as I sat on it. Just felt too clunky, if you know what I mean.

[VinsRJ 721]

My brother just picked up a Cub 100, I like it.

[MikesRJ 552]

My brother just picked up a Cub 100, I like it.

Hey Vince,

PM me your contact info again. I was going to call you this weekend and somehow your phone number is gone from my phone. Also send your address I'm going to mail something to you.

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,505]

I must be past help, then. I have a few Cubs, two 104s, two 123s, a 122, a 125, two 2135s and a 107 in pieces. I can appreciate the design in all brands from the 60s, the simplicity of a Wheel Horse, the over-engineered Cubs, the sturdiness of JD, the technology of a Case, etc. They all have their pros and cons. Cubs are more complicated than just about any Wheel Horse, but they are built to tough to last.

Mike, if you need help here are the Cub sites:

http://ihregistry.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi?pg=topics

http://www.ihcubcadet.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.pl

The first link will have manuals, i.e. service manuals, operator's manuals, etc.

[Save Old Iron 1,566]

I like to think the Wheel Horses have what I call the J Lo effect.

They have a great REAR END

but the rest of it - you can find as good in other models. :thumbs:

[kajamo240 3]

I like to think the Wheel Horses have what I call the J Lo effect.

They have a great REAR END

:thumbs:

[clintonnut 126]

They all have their pros and cons. Cubs are more complicated than just about any Wheel Horse, but they are built to tough to last.

Except the D-250 stupid Germans spending too much time engineering a GARDEN TRACTOR.

I am 1/4 German myself so don't accuse me of making fun of them!

Charlie

[TT-(Moderator) 1,131]

Except the D-250 stupid Germans spending too much time engineering a GARDEN TRACTOR.

T-Mo said Wheel Horse, Charlie - not a Gutbrod.

[clintonnut 126]

Ok TT yer yanking my chain!

Although it is a GUTBROD, Wheel Horse did make the mistake of buying them and putting their name on it. It was an overpriced, overpowered, querky, METRIC SH**, but beasty tractor! I know I have one but that's how you feel once you've been inside of one!

Charlie

[TT-(Moderator) 1,131]

I know all about them Charlie. The guy who owns the radiator shop 5 houses down the street from where I grew up bought a new one around 1979. He took very good care of it, but he used it - and it broke.... and it broke..... and - well, you know the story.

It's the same deal with the D-160/180/200 tractors. Everything was built big & beefy but they neglected to put a drive system in them that was matched to the tractor. (You wouldn't put a Borg/Warner T-92 4 speed and a Chevette rear axle in a Kenworth, would you? )

Wheel Horse would have been much further ahead if they would have stuck their red paint and decals on a 4WD 3 or 4 cylinder diesel Kubota tractor from that era.

If I get a chance to visit Bob at the radiator shop, I'll get some pictures of his D-250. (If he didn't sell it by now) The last time I saw it it still looked pretty nice. :thumbs:

[wh500special 2,188]

I know all about them Charlie. The guy who owns the radiator shop 5 houses down the street from where I grew up bought a new one around 1979. He took very good care of it, but he used it - and it broke.... and it broke..... and - well, you know the story.

It's the same deal with the D-160/180/200 tractors. Everything was built big & beefy but they neglected to put a drive system in them that was matched to the tractor. (You wouldn't put a Borg/Warner T-92 4 speed and a Chevette rear axle in a Kenworth, would you? )

Wheel Horse would have been much further ahead if they would have stuck their red paint and decals on a 4WD 3 or 4 cylinder diesel Kubota tractor from that era.

Absolutely agreed!

But , ever see a Kubota forerunner McCulloch tractor? Not pretty.

Steve

[rocking 416 1]

Hey i have a cub cadet 107 thats a tough tractor There built as tough as any wheel horse if not better they use disc brakes a calipers on there rear ends. And ring gear and pinion transmission

[linen beige 14]

Wheel Horse would have been much further ahead if they would have stuck their red paint and decals on a 4WD 3 or 4 cylinder diesel Kubota tractor from that era.

:thumbs:

[MikesRJ 552]

I must be past help, then. I have a few Cubs, two 104s, two 123s, a 122, a 125, two 2135s and a 107 in pieces. I can appreciate the design in all brands from the 60s, the simplicity of a Wheel Horse, the over-engineered Cubs, the sturdiness of JD, the technology of a Case, etc. They all have their pros and cons. Cubs are more complicated than just about any Wheel Horse, but they are built to tough to last.

Mike, if you need help here are the Cub sites:

http://ihregistry.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi?pg=topics

http://www.ihcubcadet.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.pl

The first link will have manuals, i.e. service manuals, operator's manuals, etc.

TT,

Thanks. I found the registry site (but not the other) and have all the manuals (in fact thinking of incorporating that menu system into MWH).

We do need some help getting the damn steering wheel off. It appears it's a splined shaft and its been soaking in PB for a few days now, but doesn't want to budge. Any suggestions there?

[Kelly 1,029]

As for the steering wheel, I've used a air chisle with a flat bit, put the nut back on loose and pull up on the wheel then use it on the shaft/nut, just don't beat the end up to bad.

Now I have 60+ Wheel horses, a few Case, a couple cubs, a large lawn boy tractor, a bush hog tractor, a jacobson, sears, JD, simplicity, and a Kubota so I feel your guys pain, I tell you what they all build nice machines, but they all have there draw backs, and plus sides.

[T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,505]

I must be past help, then.

[CasualObserver 3,408]

We do need some help getting the damn steering wheel off. It appears it's a splined shaft and its been soaking in PB for a few days now, but doesn't want to budge. Any suggestions there?

Yep... I use the first method in the link below - the 5/8 fine thread bolt/nut and a hammer. Its as simple as can be and worked every time for me. ... (works on old cubs and deeres alike.)

Link to Steering wheel removal on Cub FAQ page

[MikesRJ 552]

Finally got my buddy's 107 back up on wheels this past weekend. Thought I would share an update:

[DMK855 15]

You guys are doing a fine job Mike!! Looks great!! :omg:

[mavfreak 11]

I like all brands myself. Like all have said they all have pro's and con's. I dislike John deere but I'm in love with my step dads 318. And wouldn't hesitate to buy one. Except for the price then ask for the. The tractor he had before that was a cub of some type, it wouldn't dye. And then before that he had a case and That was a great tractor that did what ever you needed it to. And tried finding one with no luck

I Love my wheel horse and would never give it up and would like to find another one. I'm partial to Red. Been a farmall man my whole life and look at wheel horse as a mini Farmall, And is what they should have built

Cub looks good buy the way. Keep up the pictures

[rickv1957 72]

Mike,tractor looks great,nice work!!,Rick

[Suburban 550 28]

Nice job on the Cub, Mike. :omg:

[olcowhand 1]

As for the steering wheel, I've used a air chisle with a flat bit, put the nut back on loose and pull up on the wheel then use it on the shaft/nut, just don't beat the end up to bad.

Now I have 60+ Wheel horses, a few Case, a couple cubs, a large lawn boy tractor, a bush hog tractor, a jacobson, sears, JD, simplicity, and a Kubota so I feel your guys pain, I tell you what they all build nice machines, but they all have there draw backs, and plus sides.

Kelly, what model Bush Hog do you have?