Spring Length Issue

[Polaris2007 4]

Thank you to RickV for selling me a new clutch spring for my '77 C-120 8-speed. My issue is that I think it is too short. The photo below shows the spring I bought at the hardware store(left), the original spring(center)just the hook is broken off the original, so you can still see how long it was, and the new one I got from Rick(right). I do not think it would be possible to stretch Rick's spring enough to connect both ends without breaking it. Even with the clutch in the up possition(spring not stretched) the distance between connection points is like 3 times as long as Rick's spring. And the fact that the original spring was quite a bit longer tells me that Rick's spring might not be the correct one. Can anyone comment on this? Thanks again everyone....you guys are the greatest ---Jon H.

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[rickv1957 72]

I should have gotton your tractor ID which I will need and I will get you the right spring to you,sorry,Rick

[TT-(Moderator) 1,145]

The original #1014 spring is NLA but #108035 is a perfect substitute. It's still available from Toro for under $7.

@Rick: a 1977 C-120 would be a 71-12K801

[rmaynard 15,588]

The original #1014 spring is NLA but #108035 is a perfect substitute.

Thanks for that info TT. I too need one for my B-100. Do you by chance have the length of the 108035 from hook to hook, the coil length, and the diameter?

Bob

[TT-(Moderator) 1,145]

#108035 spring:

7 3/4" overall length

6" coil length

5/8" coil diameter - outside.

.110 / .112" wire diameter

(all measurements are "real close to" and not guaranteed to be exact )

[rickv1957 72]

Here is a picture of the 108035,1014,and raider 12 spring,lots of difference between the 108035 and the ,1014,the original and the 1014 appear to match well,the 108035 is a heavier built longer spring, any thoughts on them TT,Rick

[TT-(Moderator) 1,145]

108035 started being used on the C-85/105/125/145/165/175 models and hooked from the clutch rod arm to the web on the top of the left rear axle tube - just like many other models.

It can be retrofitted to most any gear drive tractor as long as the web on the axle housing and the clutch arm have the holes to attach it.

The other springs are NLA (unless NOS pieces turn up) so I've been using the 108035 as a replacement. :thumbs:

[rmaynard 15,588]

How much for one shipped to 21776? I know they are $3.60 from Mowparts.com + S&H

Bob

[Willie 14]

Rick, you still have your ears on?

Edited August 18, 2022 by Willie

[Jeff-C175 7,203]

15 minutes ago, Willie said:

Rick, you still have your ears on?

 

Looks like his last visit here was in 2012 so I think his ears might be off...

[peter lena 8,719]

@Polaris2007 missing part , no mention of  lubrication on related moving parts , typically I  regularly see rusty difficult linkage areas, almost to a brag point of , yeah it barely works , really ? penetrating aerosol lubricant or a red spray grease into the moving areas , will make the rust run out and help function . only a related suggestion , pete 

[Willie 14]

Thanks Pete, at this point every little bit helps.

[Lee1977 6,774]

The 108035 spring measuers 7 5/8" closed, they are stiff. You need a strong wire with a hook and handle to pull it in place, they are not easy to put on.

I haven't seen a 1014 spring but replacements are avable from  Wheelhorseparte & More  listed down in the vendors section.

[peter lena 8,719]

@Lee1977  have any welding tig wire ?  always grabbed  unused pieces on the way to the metal dumpster , 1/8"  size is a perfect  stand off for a spring and easy to  bend into a tight Z  shape , also have  very thin wire for small springs  , on throttle cables and choke related levers .  have also used small shackles for a pull point , pete