formariz 11,987 #1 Posted December 23, 2009 It seems that it takes considerable effort for the starters to turn the Tecumseh h60s when one compares it to the Kohler's setup. If the battery is not close to 100% charged it may not even start the engine. Also if one tries to start the h60s with the throttle open, the engines will barely turn over. They turn over better with just choke and start better that way.Very sensitive. Has anyone else experienced this? This only happens with the h60's that I have. All h55's start up easily. :notworthy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,635 #2 Posted December 23, 2009 The H-60 on my L107 always started on 1-2 pulls but it was stiff...I do not believe it had any provision for a compression release. It was my Dad's tractor and as he got older we put on a newer HH70 as it does have compression release. I have since added electric start (no charging system however). I can start it frequently for over a month in the summer on one battery charge. In the winter she gets 5w-30 and still starts really easily and quickly...I do charge the battery every 2 weeks or so...it starts a hell of a lot quicker than any of the Kohlers...and is ready to go to work immediately...no warm up needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #3 Posted December 23, 2009 I have since added electric start (no charging system however) Is the starter generator type or the regular Tecumseh type? The starter generator type seems to have a lot more power. It is perhaps because of the lack of a compression release that they are tough to turn? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 11,866 #4 Posted December 23, 2009 Yes Cas, I would have to say H60s are sensitive... I am pretty certain mine was pissed when I shipped it to Indiana. Sorry, I couldn't resist! But seriously, they do start and run very well with a Carter/ Kohler carburetor on them. Takes a bit of adjusting to get it right, but it works. Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chazm 413 #5 Posted December 23, 2009 Was having same problem with H100. Found a couple of things - 1st - a 40 year old starter - brushes shot - new one ordered 2nd - battery may have been frozen ?? - put in mud room over night But my tecky doesn't like the cold ether- Spits - sputters and carrys on but once it's running - :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,635 #6 Posted December 23, 2009 I have since added electric start (no charging system however) It is a regular Tecumseh Square starter. It has no problem spinning the HH70 (which does have compression release). The H60 is rebuilt and on the shelf but doesn't have a toothed flywheel so no experiments with electric starting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim_M 178 #7 Posted December 23, 2009 I am pretty certain mine was pissed when I shipped it to Indiana. It must have gotten over it by the time it got here. Or maybe it was just glad to be let out of the box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Bullington 5 #8 Posted December 24, 2009 I have 4 h60s and its does take to good battery to start them,,,but its hard for me to judge because I trickle charge my batteries every two month if they need it or not....but for all my engines the routine on starting is all the same...Pull the choke and throttle wide open..the engines usally start after 2 to 3 secs of turning...then ease the choke in immediately slowly until the engine can run smooth with the choke all the way in...sometimes it takes 20 to 30 secs to get the choke all the way in on a couple of them...I dont think my will start without both choke and throttle wide open from a cold start....It really sounds like the timing might be off, or you have tight compression rings...just guessing. But I guess to answer your question directly ...No I dont have that problem Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 11,866 #9 Posted December 24, 2009 It must have gotten over it by the time it got here. Or maybe it was just glad to be let out of the box. It was a strong engine for sure- I just could never get the carb right. I'm certainly glad you were able to use it Jim. I'm not used to Teccy's, and that was the only one I have. I'm sure my bias is unfair- as most folks who have several Teccys tend to like them very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #10 Posted December 24, 2009 Is the fact that it will only start with no throttle due to the carburetor? Once it is warm it then starts easily but again with no throttle. It starts idling very low and then one needs to gently pull up on the throttle. This happens to be with my prize possession, the all original 653 which probably does not even have 100 hours on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Bullington 5 #11 Posted December 24, 2009 Hey Cas, Is the engine hard to turn over with a fresh or new battery???? If yes like you stated there is something wrong. I would just start changing things out to see if something changes....first I might try another starter just to see if that changes how it turns over...a new battery should spin these little engines fast..all mine do....I dont think any setting my carbs had would slow the starter down with a fresh battery....again im just guessing im leaning to the starter weak, if that didnt work, i might switch some carbs off my others to see if something changes. Do you have some spare carbs or starters to try? Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
formariz 11,987 #12 Posted December 24, 2009 The fresh battery turns the engine over rather freely as long as the throttle is closed all the way down and choke open.It will start it on the second time around this way. However if I pull the throttle up along with the choke it has difficulty in turning engine over and it will never start that way.Closing the throttle down after that, and it turns the engine OK. It seems that it is the carburetor that creates the problem although I don't understand why.Since the tractor is all original and looks new, I really don,t want to start "digging" into it.It is just a great inconvenience all the time on the first start if I forget and pull the throttle.Along with not turning over freely it floods it a bit. Once hot it starts easily but again it cannot have any throttle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldandred 15 #13 Posted December 25, 2009 Well heres my chance to add I have over thirteen with the teck engine and yes they need a good battery and with a good charge if its weak it will not start belive me and after starting you best let them warm up before trying to go any were but there a good engine for what they were put on. a few of mine have pull start and have used it a few times but I dont like pulling. I have some that sit all year with a float charger on them they will start right up and try to start all of my tractors atleast three times a year. One thing to keep in mind dont buy a cheap battery. now thats my barrery story and Im sticking to it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowtieguy 334 #14 Posted December 25, 2009 a few of mine have pull start and have used it a few times but I dont like pulling. I have a pic of a guy pulling on an ole YELLAR cow.....won't start...must have a Tuckie engine??? PS...and don't let him tell ya it was just "out of gas"... :notworthy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dadstractor1 5 #15 Posted December 25, 2009 dont know about them but nice to hear from you dadstractor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duff 206 #16 Posted December 25, 2009 One thing to keep in mind dont buy a cheap battery. At the risk of opening up another large can of worms, is there a particularly good brand you'd recommend? Duff :notworthy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
