PapaMorris 32 #1 Posted April 15 Hey all, Boy am I glad I found this forum. My grandfather was a small engine repair guy after WW2, and loved his toys. I always remember him tinkering in his shop. I have the opportunity to bring this home with me, but I have no idea where to even start. He painted over anything that might be a serial or model number. At least from what I can find. I know it's taboo not to use the search function, but if I can at least find out what model or range of models this might be, I'll at least have a starting point. I appreciate any help I can get. Thanks PapaMorris 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 22,036 #2 Posted April 15 I don’t think that’s a Wheel Horse at all. It does have a Wheel Horse hood which is where the confusion comes from. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 27,494 #3 Posted April 15 Agree with @Sparky that doesn't look like a ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 9,424 #4 Posted April 15 My guess is that’s an Economy Power King? With a Wheel Horse hood. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapaMorris 32 #5 Posted April 15 Ok, y'all are making me feel better now. Before I came to the forum I was looking for pictures of this tractor and was very perplexed. I appreciate it so far. I'll look up the Economy Power King. Thanks! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 10,352 #6 Posted April 15 (edited) I don’t think that a Economy Power King. I can’t see the transmission or torque tube to the rear end. They would in line with the centerline of the crankshaft which is above that frame decking. The rear fenders also don’t look PK. What say you @Achto I think it’s homebuilt from a collection of parts. More pictures please, especially of the drive components Edited April 15 by oliver2-44 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c-series don 9,424 #7 Posted April 15 I was just guessing by the look of the front axle components and the offset steering wheel? Again just a guess! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapaMorris 32 #8 Posted April 15 Well it definitely looks like I came to the right place! I will take some more pictures tomorrow. Anything in particular besides drive components? I know I saw a 4 speed and no PTO. Looks like a single cylinder engine, that's a pull start, too. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 70,674 #9 Posted April 15 4 hours ago, PapaMorris said: Well it definitely looks like I came to the right place! Boy did you! If these guys can't identify that rig there ain't a human that can. Very cool. @Stepney any thoughts? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stepney 2,350 #10 Posted April 15 (edited) Looks to me like an Economy built machine. My phone isn’t showing the picture great. If the front axle beam is square tubing with movable front spindles, it’s a Red E Tractor, however from what I see I’m thinking it’s a Country Squire tractor. The torque tube is there. Look under the miffler and you can see the square hole for the belt pulley. The rear axle is Model A Ford. That checks out. The CS had little spring shock mounts under the seat and a Briggs engine. But the brakes usually are inside the frame rails and kinda sketchy to use because you step down like a 9n Ford. On this one I see hand lever brakes. The front two piece wheels line up to either model. Economy usually had a C seat spring. Not the dual shocks. And a taller front wheel with a single piece rim. The only ID would be right behind the engine on top of the clutch casting. A little riveted badge. The hood is clearly WH. It could be a cobble of all three machines but definitely takes its basis from Engineering Products Company. Edited April 15 by Stepney 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 10,352 #11 Posted April 15 6 hours ago, c-series don said: I was just guessing by the look of the front axle components and the offset steering wheel? Again just a guess! I agree the front axle, offset steering, 1x2 frame look like from a PK The engine looks like a Briggs which would be correct for a 50’s or 60’s PK. I think Stepney is on to something with the Country Squire or Red E and the model T rear end. I maybe see the back of the transmission flange. But I still don’t see the drive shaft tube to the rear end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 42,505 #12 Posted April 15 Could very well be a PK Economy with the hood added as well as a floor pan. I can see the rear axle bull gear on the RR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 57,839 #13 Posted April 15 Your grandfather's tractor appears to be a Power King Country Squire built between 1951 and 1962. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 64,470 #14 Posted April 15 8 hours ago, PapaMorris said: Well it definitely looks like I came to the right place! I will take some more pictures tomorrow. Anything in particular besides drive components? I know I saw a 4 speed and no PTO. Looks like a single cylinder engine, that's a pull start, too. I like Pullstarts! , and great looking machine! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 28,757 #16 Posted April 15 I'm on the band wagon with a Country Squire. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapaMorris 32 #17 Posted April 15 Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! I appreciate all of y'all that hopped in here to help me out. 2 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,484 #18 Posted April 15 These s do know their tractor stuff. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 42,505 #19 Posted April 15 (edited) Country Squire is a more rare version of the Economy family. Power Queen was the rarest. Red E and Country Squire followed then the more common Jim Dandy's and the Power Kings Edited April 16 by squonk 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 57,839 #20 Posted April 15 26 minutes ago, squonk said: Red E Red E Tractors has an interesting history as did Page Dairy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapaMorris 32 #21 Posted April 16 (edited) Now that we know it's a Country Squire , do y'all have any resources to steer me to to learn more about it? I have a lot to learn, and can't wait to see if I can get her running again. Thank you all for your help. Y'all are amazing! Edit: Ok, I found some info on tractordata that says this serial number is from 1955! How cool is that?! My parents were 7 when this was built. One thing has me a little perplexed. All the pictures I have been about to find of the same model tractor, the intake and exhaust are on the opposite side of the motor from my grandfather's. Is this indicative of his tinkering? Or just different year models having different layouts? Thanks again! Edited April 16 by PapaMorris Didn't want to double post. Added information to previous post. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 10,352 #22 Posted April 16 (edited) There are people on this forum that can help you get it going, even though its not a Wheel Horse. I suggest you start a thread in the "Other brands " section. Ask lots of questions and provide pictures to help people guide you. Step 1 give it a bath, 2. Start soaking everything, every nut, bolt, pin, fitting, with penetrant every day for a week++ before you ever turn a wrench. 3. Bag and label anything you take apart in zip lock bags. https://www.tractordata.com/lawn-tractors/003/8/4/3842-economy-country-squire.html Mission Manufacturing owns the rights to Power King. Many parts should cross to your Country Squire. https://powerkingtractor.com/ T92 Transmission Parts, Olympic Gear Products https://www.facebook.com/OlympicGearProductsInc/ https://www.facebook.com/OlympicGearProductsInc/posts/dale-from-west-virginia-called-in-for-some-parts-for-his-1958-country-squire-tra/888368051273404/ Briggs and Stratton https://www.briggsandstratton.com/content/dam/briggsandstratton/na/en_us/Files/FAQs/23A_23A-B_23A-FB_23A-R6_23A-R6D_27760-domestic.pdf https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na/en_us/support/faqs/browse/antique-engine-specifications.html Just in case it has a Wisconsin engine, which I suspect might be a Model AHH https://www.wisconsinmotorscanada.ca/wspecsoldmodels.html Wisconsin parts https://www.pittauto.com/default.aspx?page=customer&file=customer/piauel/customerpages/pl_wisconsin.htm Wisconsin Manual AHH https://www.pittauto.com/customer/piauel/pdf/Wisconsin_afh_agh_ahh.pdf Edited April 16 by oliver2-44 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 57,839 #23 Posted April 16 9 hours ago, PapaMorris said: One thing has me a little perplexed. All the pictures I have been about to find of the same model tractor, the intake and exhaust are on the opposite side of the motor from my grandfather's. Is this indicative of his tinkering? Or just different year models having different layouts? Looks right to me. It appears to be a 9 HP Briggs and Stratton engine. Some Wisconsin engines were used on Country Squires and they would have the intake on the opposite side. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapaMorris 32 #24 Posted April 16 Ok, great! That was the confusion. I haven't had time to really dig in just yet. Just scratching the surface. Thank you all! I'll pop over to the Other Brands section and start a thread there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites