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PapaMorris

Hey all,

 

Boy am I glad I found this forum.  My grandfather was a small engine repair guy after WW2, and loved his toys.   I always remember him tinkering in his shop. I have the opportunity to bring this home with me, but I have no idea where to even start.  He painted over anything that might be a serial or model number. At least from what I can find. 

 

 I know it's taboo not to use the search function, but if I can at least find out what model or range of models this might be, I'll at least have a starting point.   I appreciate any help I can get.   

 

Thanks

PapaMorris

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Sparky

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 I don’t think that’s a Wheel Horse at all. It does have a Wheel Horse hood which is where the confusion comes from. 

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SylvanLakeWH

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Agree with @Sparky that doesn't look like a :wh:...

 

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c-series don

My guess is that’s an Economy Power King? With a Wheel Horse hood. 

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PapaMorris

Ok, y'all are making me feel better now.   Before I came to the forum I was looking for pictures of this tractor and was very perplexed.  I appreciate it so far.  I'll look up the Economy Power King. 

 

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oliver2-44
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I don’t think that a Economy Power King. I can’t see the transmission or torque tube to the rear end. They would in line with the centerline of the crankshaft which is above that frame decking.  The rear fenders also don’t look PK. What say you @Achto
I think it’s homebuilt from a collection of parts. 
More pictures please, especially of the drive components

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c-series don

I was just guessing by the look of the front axle components and the offset steering wheel? Again just a guess!

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PapaMorris

Well it definitely looks like I came to the right place!   I will take some more pictures tomorrow.  Anything in particular besides drive components?  I know I saw a 4 speed and no PTO.   Looks like a single cylinder engine, that's a pull start, too. 

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ebinmaine

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4 hours ago, PapaMorris said:

Well it definitely looks like I came to the right place! 

 

Boy did you!

 

If these guys can't identify that rig there ain't a human that can. 

Very cool.  

 

 

@Stepney any thoughts? 

 

 

 

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Stepney
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Looks to me like an Economy built machine. My phone isn’t showing the picture great. If the front axle beam is square tubing with movable front spindles, it’s a Red E Tractor, however from what I see I’m thinking it’s a Country Squire tractor. The torque tube is there. Look under the miffler and you can see the square hole for the belt pulley. The rear axle is Model A Ford. That checks out. The CS had little spring shock mounts under the seat and a Briggs engine. But the brakes usually are inside the frame rails and kinda sketchy to use because you step down like a 9n Ford. On this one I see hand lever brakes. The front two piece wheels line up to either model. 
Economy usually had a C seat spring. Not the dual shocks. And a taller front wheel with a single piece rim. 
The only ID would be right behind the engine on top of the clutch casting. A little riveted badge. 
The hood is clearly WH. It could be a cobble of all three machines but definitely takes its basis from Engineering Products Company. 

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oliver2-44
6 hours ago, c-series don said:

I was just guessing by the look of the front axle components and the offset steering wheel? Again just a guess!

I agree the front axle, offset steering, 1x2 frame look like from a PK The engine looks like a Briggs which would be correct for a 50’s or 60’s PK.
I think Stepney is on to something with the Country Squire or Red E and the model T rear end. I maybe see the back of the transmission flange. But I still don’t see the drive shaft tube to the rear end. 

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squonk

Could very well be a PK Economy with the hood added as well as a floor pan. I can see the rear axle bull gear on the RR

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953 nut

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Your grandfather's tractor appears to be a Power King Country Squire built between 1951 and 1962.

 

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Pullstart
8 hours ago, PapaMorris said:

Well it definitely looks like I came to the right place!   I will take some more pictures tomorrow.  Anything in particular besides drive components?  I know I saw a 4 speed and no PTO.   Looks like a single cylinder engine, that's a pull start, too. 


I like Pullstarts!  :orcs-cheers:

 

:text-welcomeconfetti:, and great looking machine!  

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WHX??

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Achto

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I'm on the band wagon with a Country Squire.

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PapaMorris

Ding, ding, ding!   We have a winner!   

 

I appreciate all of y'all that hopped in here to help me out. 

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wallfish

These :occasion-clown:s do know their tractor stuff.

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squonk
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Country Squire is a more rare version of the Economy family. Power Queen was the rarest.  Red E and Country Squire followed then the more common Jim Dandy's and the Power Kings

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953 nut
26 minutes ago, squonk said:

Red E

Red Tractors has an interesting history as did Page Dairy.

 

 

 

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PapaMorris
Posted (edited)

Now that we know it's a Country Squire , do y'all have any resources to steer me to to learn more about it?  I have a lot to learn, and can't wait to see if I can get her running again. 

 

Thank you all for your help.  Y'all are amazing! 

 

Edit:  Ok, I found some info on tractordata that says this serial number is from 1955!   How cool is that?!  My parents were 7 when this was built.   

 

One thing has me a little perplexed.  All the pictures I have been about to find of the same model tractor, the intake and exhaust are on the opposite side of the motor from my grandfather's.   Is this indicative of his tinkering?   Or just different year models having different layouts?  

 

Thanks again!

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Didn't want to double post. Added information to previous post.
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oliver2-44
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There are people on this forum that can help you get it going, even though its not a Wheel Horse.

I suggest you start a thread in the "Other brands " section. 

Ask lots of questions and provide pictures to help people guide you. 

 

Step 1 give it a bath,

2. Start soaking everything, every nut, bolt, pin, fitting, with penetrant every day for a week++ before you ever turn a wrench.

3. Bag and label anything you take apart in zip lock bags.

 

 

https://www.tractordata.com/lawn-tractors/003/8/4/3842-economy-country-squire.html

 

Mission Manufacturing owns the rights to Power King. Many parts should cross to your Country Squire.

https://powerkingtractor.com/

 

T92 Transmission Parts, Olympic Gear Products

https://www.facebook.com/OlympicGearProductsInc/

https://www.facebook.com/OlympicGearProductsInc/posts/dale-from-west-virginia-called-in-for-some-parts-for-his-1958-country-squire-tra/888368051273404/

 

Briggs and Stratton

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/content/dam/briggsandstratton/na/en_us/Files/FAQs/23A_23A-B_23A-FB_23A-R6_23A-R6D_27760-domestic.pdf

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na/en_us/support/faqs/browse/antique-engine-specifications.html

 

Just in case it has a Wisconsin engine, which I suspect might be a Model AHH

https://www.wisconsinmotorscanada.ca/wspecsoldmodels.html

Wisconsin parts 

https://www.pittauto.com/default.aspx?page=customer&file=customer/piauel/customerpages/pl_wisconsin.htm

Wisconsin Manual  AHH

https://www.pittauto.com/customer/piauel/pdf/Wisconsin_afh_agh_ahh.pdf

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953 nut
9 hours ago, PapaMorris said:

One thing has me a little perplexed.  All the pictures I have been about to find of the same model tractor, the intake and exhaust are on the opposite side of the motor from my grandfather's.   Is this indicative of his tinkering?   Or just different year models having different layouts? 

Looks right to me. It appears to be a 9 HP Briggs and Stratton engine. Some Wisconsin engines were used on Country Squires and they would have the intake on the opposite side.

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PapaMorris

Ok, great!   That was the confusion.   I haven't had time to really dig in just yet. Just scratching the surface.  

 

Thank you all!  I'll pop over to the Other Brands section and start a thread there. 

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