Wheel weights vs fluid filled tires

[FLtractor 23]

Wondering the advantages and disadvantages of fluid filled tires vs wheel weights for yard cart towing in Florida, no snow , plows ect. Picture of cart for reference.. will build deck for wagon. is extra weight even necessary for my purpose? Cart dimensions roughly 3 foot x 6 foot. Possibly 200-300 lbs.  I can lift cart end by hand and move myself. Mostly grass, very flat terrain.. some crushed concrete rock driveway to drive over. 

 

Edited April 12 by FLtractor

[ebinmaine 70,671]

Picture didn't work...

 

 

What's the terrain? 

 

Total trailer weight?

 

 

 

[FLtractor 23]

3 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Picture didn't work...

 

 

What's the terrain? 

 

Total trailer weight?

 

 

 

Added info in Orginal post above 

[Ed Kennell 40,455]

t      What is this angle iron used for?

 

I don't feel weights would be required to pull a wagon on a flat smooth dry surface.    If you do, filed tires would be my first choice.     For moving heavy loads, I prefer to push with a front hitch.    No chance of the tractor flipping, and they will flip if a trailer wheel happens to run over  the edge of a 2x4.    And it is so much easier to maneuver in close quarters.

[lynnmor 7,557]

I wouldn't add any weight to the cart.  Now what is up with the lop-sided tires?

[FLtractor 23]

1 hour ago, Ed Kennell said:

t      What is this angle iron used for?

 

I don't feel weights would be required to pull a wagon on a flat smooth dry surface.    If you do, filed tires would be my first choice.     For moving heavy loads, I prefer to push with a front hitch.    No chance of the tractor flipping, and they will flip if a trailer wheel happens to run over  the edge of a 2x4.    And it is so much easier to maneuver in close quarters.

That’s a brake that whoever made the cart (Orginally a roofing cart) so when you have handle all way

 

30 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

I wouldn't add any weight to the cart.  Now what is up with the lop-sided tires?

down it brakes the tires from rolling.. well one of them.. it’s bent so only stops one tires. Might be the Angel of the picture along with the uneven deck it’s on.. they roll fine and haven’t noticed any lopsided until you just told me

Edited April 12 by FLtractor

[FLtractor 23]

31 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

I wouldn't add any weight to the cart.  Now what is up with the lop-sided tires?

Added your reply accidentally to Ed”s

[953 nut 57,839]

I have towed cars with a Wheel Horse without any extra weight on firm level ground, no problem.

[8ntruck 7,375]

I've pulled somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 yard of damp sand up a mild hill without weights.  Used low range to do it, though.

[FLtractor 23]

26 minutes ago, 8ntruck said:

I've pulled somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 yard of damp sand up a mild hill without weights.  Used low range to do it, though. My wheelhorse doesn’t have range selection. 

[ebinmaine 70,671]

@FLtractor

You'd be fine in first gear on flat ground with appropriate knowledge and care. 

[adsm08 2,634]

I really doubt you will need any extra weight. I have moved my 5x12 about with a 310-8 with no weights. Just the bare frame on that trailer probably weighs more than your little cart will ever hold.

 

If you are worried about traction get Ag treaded tires and ditch the turf savers.

 

If you are worried about your lawn get Ags instead of turf savers.

 

If you want your tractor to look awesome get Ags instead of turf savers.

 

Basically if you ever have to deal with wet dirt or grass and never have to deal with ice, get Ags instead of turf savers.

[ebinmaine 70,671]

[FLtractor 23]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

-What would be a good price to expect to pay for those ags above .. My rears are 23x8.50x12.
- Are the front’s supposed to be replaced with ag bar tires to or just rears? 

- the ags fit the same wheel rims as turfs do, nothing special about them? Since I’ll eventually need new rear wheels due to the rust of them being orignal and fluid in tires leaking. 

[Handy Don 13,340]

1 hour ago, FLtractor said:

- Are the front’s supposed to be replaced with ag bar tires to or just rears? 

- the ags fit the same wheel rims as turfs do, nothing special about them? Since I’ll eventually need new rear wheels due to the rust of them being orignal and fluid in tires leaking. 

It's your tractor--put on the tires that make YOU smile.

Ags of the same size specs normally fit on the same rims as the turfs. There are some makers whose tires can be harder to mount due to slight size variations or the construction of the tire carcass (4- or even 6-ply vs. 2-ply, for example) as well as the stiffness of the tread. Also, as you’ll see if you search tire threads here, some makers’ advertised sizes are more aspirational than realistic (Destone is notorious for undersizing, for example).

Edited April 14 by Handy Don

[FLtractor 23]

4 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

It's your tractor--put on the tires that make YOU smile.

Ags of the same size specs normally fit on the same rims as the turfs. There are some makers whose tires can be harder to mount due to slight size variations or the construction of the tire carcass (4- or even 6-ply vs. 2-ply, for example) as well as the stiffness of the tread. Also, as you’ll see if you search tire threads here, some makers’ advertised sizes are more aspirational than realistic (Destone is notorious for undersizing, for example).

Thank you. Don’t know much about the tires differences. Are ag bar generally more expensive than turf? Does one tend to be more durable than the other? Or is it just ag bars looking tougher meaner ect 

[Handy Don 13,340]

6 minutes ago, FLtractor said:

Thank you. Don’t know much about the tires differences. Are ag bar generally more expensive than turf? Does one tend to be more durable than the other? Or is it just ag bars looking tougher meaner ect 

Wear is highly dependent on usage--how and how much--and on how much rubber is in contact with the ground.

Turfs have a lot of smaller blocks for smoother ride over many surfaces but over firm ground, some Ag tread patterns are just about as smooth. Narrow block Ags will wear faster than wider block Ags.

And tire quality DOES matter.

Over rough or muddy surfaces, Ags can give more grip but will leave more tracks behind. 

Turf or Ags that stay on grass without a lot of aggressive turning or pulling will last for decades--often they will fail from sun and aging before tread wear-out. 

[adsm08 2,634]

Ags grip better in most non-ice situations. They may leave prints in muddy ground, but they are better for traction.

 

For example, there was a year I was responsible for mowing the neighboring yard, and there is a spot where their sump, and that of the house on the other side discharge in the same spot, so it gets swampy. My last tractor with turfs got stuck there. My current tractor (same as yours) with Ags never thought twice about just going right on through, and did far less damage.

 

I replaced the last set on it because the rubber was so degraded they couldn't hold air, the tread was almost new.

 

I like the look of Ags but I have always been function over form, and I really do believe that they are better if you are ever in any situation that isn't basically dry pavement or dry grass on dry ground.

[ebinmaine 70,671]

9 hours ago, FLtractor said:

What would be a good price to expect to pay for those ags above .. My rears are 23x8.50x12

 

That particular tire is not available 8.5 wide. 

They do sell 10.5.

 

Tire prices can vary quite a lot. 

Shop carefully.  

 

Up here that exact tire would be a little over $100 each including shipping.