314-8

[Wv hunter 6]

Just bought a nice looking 314-8 for $200 changed oil,changed rear end oil,drained gas and took bowl off of bottom of carburetor and cleaned it put a good battery in it and nothing won’t do nothing not even lights on dash are working no clicking when turning the key nothing but when I cross the selinoid over the motor will turn over sprayed gas in carburetor trying to start it but it will not start took spark plug out left it connected and turned motor again crossing selinoid and didn’t see no spark on plug trying to figure it out any help is appreciated 

[Ed Kennell 40,305]

to the Is the PTO disengaged?

[953 nut 57,580]

As Ed @Ed Kennell said, the PTO is the first place to look. There is also the brake switch that needs to be made up to crank from the switch. Check the fuses and fuse holders to be sure they are clean.

Under the seat there is a Model Number, post that and we can give you better information.

[D_Mac 9,041]

Welcome ! To me I would check the safety switches first. Brake on, sit on the seat, make sure it's in neutral,  PTO is off. Then I would check the key switch. Good luck with it. 

[Wv hunter 6]

  On 4/3/2025 at 10:50 PM, Ed Kennell said:

to the Is the PTO disengaged?

No Sir?

 

  On 4/3/2025 at 11:11 PM, 953 nut said:

As Ed @Ed Kennell said, the PTO is the first place to look. There is also the brake switch that needs to be made up to crank from the switch. Check the fuses and fuse holders to be sure they are clean.

Under the seat there is a Model Number, post that and we can give you better information.

 

[Wv hunter 6]

Thanks for letting me join this site and thanks for the help trying to navigate how to comment on each post model number is 73400 and I am not very mechanically inclined but willing to try 

[Ed Kennell 40,305]

The PTO must be disengaged to complete the starting circuit. 

[HyperPete 439]

Im working on my 414-8.  I just had to replace the solenoid ($9 on amazon).  

Maybe these diagrams will help, too:  

 

 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,213]

The 73400 was produced 1993-1996. The tractor serial number's first 2 digits reversed is the model  year.

Hope the wiring is the same for all years. Download this file for simple diagrams for each circuit.

 

[953 nut 57,580]

Here are two pages from the Demystification Guide for your 314 with added notes that should be helpful. Cleaning and tightening ALL electrical connections including grounds is very important when searching for an electrical problem.

[Wv hunter 6]

I cleaned the ground made sure everything is tight checked fuses made sure PTO is off but I did find where the plug wire goes into the coil looks like half into I guess a rat chewed on it I know I need a coil and I pressed clutch and brake and still no power 

[953 nut 57,580]

  On 4/3/2025 at 9:14 PM, Wv hunter said:

when I cross the selinoid over the motor will turn over

It is therefor reasonable to say the battery and large cables are not the problem. Make up a light duty jumper cable or buy a bunch for $ 4.00 at Harbor Freight.     

With the ignition switch OFF, transmission in neutral and wheels blocked to prevent the tractor from moving connect one end of a cable to the battery + terminal and touch the other end to the small terminal of your solenoid that has a purple wire on it, the solenoid should close and the starter turn the engine. 

 

If the solenoid did close move back to the purple wire on the PTO switch. The PTO switch is located next to the battery on the right side as viewed from the operator's seat.  With the ignition switch OFF, transmission in neutral and wheels blocked to prevent the tractor from moving connect the jumper from the battery + to the PTO purple  wire. Now step on the clutch pedal and the solenoid should close and the engine turn over.

 

If the solenoid did close move back to the tan wire on your ignition switch.  With the ignition switch OFF, transmission in neutral and wheels blocked to prevent the tractor from moving and the PTO lever in the OFF position connect the jumper from the battery + to the tan wire from the ignition switch. Now step on the clutch pedal and the solenoid should close and the engine turn over.

Let us know how you do with these tests.

[Wv hunter 6]

Ok I done the test from battery to purple wire on solenoid and motor turned over I done test from battery to purple wire on pto and motor turned over I done test to battery to tan wire on key switch but motor did not turn over I did remove key switch and put wire inside of connector though 

[953 nut 57,580]

So the TAN wire from the ignition switch going to the PTO switch needs to be inspected. I probably passes through a five wire connector (with four wires) between the engine and the tractor wiring. There could be a broken wire in that area.

[Wv hunter 6]

  On 4/5/2025 at 2:55 PM, 953 nut said:

So the TAN wire from the ignition switch going to the PTO switch needs to be inspected. I probably passes through a five wire connector (with four wires) between the engine and the tractor wiring. There could be a broken wire in that area.

Looks like there are two Tan wires going to the key switch and looks like I might have to remove some stuff to be able to trace the wires thanks for your help really appreciate it thanks 

[peter lena 9,068]

 

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 Wvahunter

[WHX?? 50,560]

@Achto and I was scored a 520 for a buck. PO couldn't get it started. Come to find out the battery was connected backwards all it was.

Just sayin ... 

[Wv hunter 6]

  On 4/6/2025 at 1:02 PM, WHX?? said:

@Achto and I was scored a 520 for a buck. PO couldn't get it started. Come to find out the battery was connected backwards all it was.

Just sayin ... 

Battery is hooked up correctly with some help I have narrowed it down to the tan wire coming from the key switch having a break in it somewhere but having a hard time finding it 

[953 nut 57,580]

Tan wire could be the problem or perhaps the PTO switch isn't making a connection. Move the test wire to the tan wire at the PTO switch.

With the ignition switch OFF, transmission in neutral and wheels blocked to prevent the tractor from moving and the PTO lever in the OFF position connect the jumper from the battery + to the tan wire at the PTO switch. Now step on the clutch pedal and the solenoid should close and the engine turn over. If the engine turns over with this test then it is the tan wire, if not then that half of PTO switch isn't closing. Try moving the PTO handle a bit to see if that changes anything.

 

[Wv hunter 6]

  On 4/6/2025 at 3:46 PM, 953 nut said:

Tan wire could be the problem or perhaps the PTO switch isn't making a connection. Move the test wire to the tan wire at the PTO switch.

With the ignition switch OFF, transmission in neutral and wheels blocked to prevent the tractor from moving and the PTO lever in the OFF position connect the jumper from the battery + to the tan wire at the PTO switch. Now step on the clutch pedal and the solenoid should close and the engine turn over. If the engine turns over with this test then it is the tan wire, if not then that half of PTO switch isn't closing. Try moving the PTO handle a bit to see if that changes anything.

 

Just went and run a jumper from battery to tan wire on pto switch and started smoking at connector at pto and melted tan wire some So I guess now that I have another problem!!

Edited Monday at 12:03 PM by Wv hunter

[Wv hunter 6]

  On 4/6/2025 at 4:18 PM, Wv hunter said:

Just went and run a jumper from battery to tan wire on pto switch and started smoking at connector at pto and melted tan wire some So I guess now that I have another problem!!

Does anyone have the part number for the PTO safety switch for a 314-8 model 73400 serial number 4900954 I think I might of burnt it up if not worse thanks