JoeM 7,920 #1 Posted March 26 I have seen a John Deere 30 second easy change oil system. Neighbor brought her machine over for a service and it had this oil change system on it. Well not running anything new, I never seen one of these. After a while and looking into it, wow what bunch of bananas this is. First, it only changes about half of the oil (contained in the filter). Second the unit at Lowes cost just north of $60. I guess changing some of the oil and filter is better than changing none? And it you got the extra cash, oh well, they seen you coming. Needless to say, I am converting it to the old spin on filter for about $20 in parts. And this machine was purchased at a dealer! Just sharing. 1 1 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,937 #2 Posted March 26 Not changing the oil in the pan is a mistake - if there is no oil drain, perhaps pump it out like they do with a boat??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 27,377 #3 Posted March 26 The last 30 seconds of the video should be: "and then drive the tractor into a dumpster where it can be put to a timely death..." What a crock... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EB-80/8inPA 1,791 #4 Posted March 27 5 hours ago, ri702bill said: Not changing the oil in the pan is a mistake - if there is no oil drain, perhaps pump it out like they do with a boat??? Dry sump system with the reservoir in that disposable can thingy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,937 #5 Posted March 27 6 hours ago, EB-80/8inPA said: Dry sump system with the reservoir in that disposable can thingy? Way too hi-techy for me. I'm used to K series Kohlers and crank dipper splash lubrication! Look at what I save on oil filters!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,920 #6 Posted March 27 7 hours ago, EB-80/8inPA said: Dry sump system with the reservoir in that disposable can thingy? Half and half I suppose. The sump has oil. I found a drain plug on the other side of the engine. Going to warm it up and drain the sump too. See what comes out . I think the whole system holds 2 quarts. I just can not believe they come out with such a gimmick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 57,740 #7 Posted March 27 B & S has had a NO OIL CHANGE engine on the market for several years. Guess they figure the mower will rust out before the engine blows up if no maintenance is ever done. Chances are the lazy owner won't change the air filter so the warranty will be void anyway. No Oil Changes Just check and add as needed Engine maintenance made easy with no oil changes needed ever*. Simply check your oil levels, and add as you go. Find a Dealer No Oil Changes The automotive-style paper air cleaner element and the improved oil fill tube protect the engines from debris, keeping the oil clean, eliminating the need for an oil change. Easy Maintenance Tool-less access makes changing your air filter a breeze - Snap off the cover, replace the filter, and snap the cover back on, no tools needed. Easy Starting No Prime, No Choke. Just pull for power Lightweight Lightest in class for easy maneuverability. View All Specifications > 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeM 7,920 #8 Posted March 27 (edited) I did drain the sump and got a little more than 1 1/2 quarts, I figure that can drains back into the sump a bit not sure how. The whole Briggs thing from no oil change to this thing is sooooo bad. Turns out not to be a Briggs thing.....John Deere exclusive, even worse. Edited March 28 by JoeM 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treepep 629 #9 Posted March 28 I have one of those briggs in an old front tine David Bradley. it is a beast. Not using oil yet. no fun way to change it either. Remove, from tiller, remove dipstick and invert. or sump out. No drain plug. crazy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites