Best electric fuel pump?

[gt14rider 832]

Hi all, thinking of replacing old mechanical fuel pump with a electric pump. Any feed back on a good replacement.  Refreshing a charger 12, for a old friend and he is not mechanical at all, trying to make it simple for him. any info would be appreciated. 

[ebinmaine 70,494]

 

2 minutes ago, gt14rider said:

he is not mechanical at all, trying to make it simple for him

 

The simplest way is going to be reinstalling a good mechanical fuel pump.

 

 

 

Here are the electric pumps I've collected part numbers of:

 

Facet 60245 or 60304.

 

Mr. Gasket 42s. 

 

Carter P4070.

 

I use and recommend the very first one.

[squonk 42,433]

54 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

 

The simplest way is going to be reinstalling a good mechanical fuel pump.

 

 

 

Here are the electric pumps I've collected part numbers of:

 

Facet 60245 or 60304.

 

Mr. Gasket 42s. 

 

Carter P4070.

 

I use and recommend the very first one.

The Mr.Gasket 42 S and the Facet 60245 are the exact same pump. As well as the Carbole pump and the Napa 610-1051. Same pump in a different box and different prices to match

[gt14rider 832]

So his tractor does have the metal body fuel pump, you think just stay with that and get rebuild kit from (Then and Now auto ) ? 

[ebinmaine 70,494]

1 hour ago, gt14rider said:

So his tractor does have the metal body fuel pump, you think just stay with that and get rebuild kit from (Then and Now auto ) ? 

 

IMHO: 

Provided you can properly identify the fuel pump and the parts are readily available that's the way I'd go. 

Saves wiring and making a block off plate. 

 

YMMV....

 

 

 

[squonk 42,433]

I go electric when ever the fuel pump operation gets questionable. No risk of fuel getting into the oil. 

[ebinmaine 70,494]

12 minutes ago, squonk said:

I go electric when ever the fuel pump operation gets questionable. No risk of fuel getting into the oil. 

 

Definitely a quality consideration.  

[pfrederi 18,311]

2 hours ago, squonk said:

The Mr.Gasket 42 S and the Facet 60245 are the exact same pump. As well as the Carbole pump and the Napa 610-1051. Same pump in a different box and different prices to match

 

 

The Facet is made in Elmira NY..according to the box and their website.  Where do the others come from???

Edited March 23 by pfrederi

[rjg854 11,871]

2 hours ago, squonk said:

The Mr.Gasket 42 S and the Facet 60245 are the exact same pump. As well as the Carbole pump and the Napa 610-1051. Same pump in a different box and different prices to match

Which is the least expensive?

[squonk 42,433]

9 minutes ago, rjg854 said:

Which is the least expensive?

Have to look around but usually NAPA is usually the most expensive

[squonk 42,433]

23 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

 

 

The Facet is made in Elmira NY..according to the box and their website.  Where do the others come from???

The NAPA pump is made by Facet

[ebinmaine 70,494]

37 minutes ago, rjg854 said:

Which is the least expensive?

 

I'd buy the Facet. Period. 

 

Aircraft Spruce has em for $55 ish. 

https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pnpages/05-10882.php

 

 

While you're on that site you could also buy the excellent quality 90⁰ fuel shutoff valves for both 1/8" threads and the grommet style, and grommets!

 

 

[Goldnboy 978]

Need low psi ..facet is American  made...

[gt14rider 832]

Thanks everyone, for the info, will look at the mechanical pump to check condition and parts available. I'll talk to my friend and see if he wants to spend the money on a facet pump. Got to make sure this thing runs before dropping a lot of money on this. Been sitting 15 - 20 years . May have some wiring to do ,perfect time to wire a new pump. We'll see.    Thanks again 

[Racinbob 11,702]

I have the Mr. Gasket 42S (about $50) on two of mine and two of the other tractors have the cheapies on them. So far no problems with any of them. The 42S pumps have a whir sound and I'd assume all the better units do. The cheapies sound like a little piston pump. Of course the sound doesn't matter once the engine is running. I decided a while back to get a spare cheapie for the shelf and I ended up with three for less than $20 delivered. I'm about set to use one of them on another machine.

 

Edited March 24 by Racinbob

[midpack 968]

39 minutes ago, Racinbob said:

I have the Mr. Gasket 42S (about $50) on two of mine and two of the other tractors have the cheapies on them. So far no problems with any of them. The 42S pumps have a whir sound and I'd assume all the better units do. The cheapies sound like a little piston pump. Of course the sound doesn't matter once the engine is running. I decided a while back to get a spare cheapie for the shelf and I ended up with three for less than $20 delivered. I'm about set to use one of them and another machine.

 

I use the HEP-02A pump as well, $12.00 and it's been running fine winter and summer for at least 6 years on a KT17. I just put one on Mongo (M18) when the fuel pump stopped working last fall

[pfrederi 18,311]

2 hours ago, midpack said:

I use the HEP-02A pump as well, $12.00 and it's been running fine winter and summer for at least 6 years on a KT17. I just put one on Mongo (M18) when the fuel pump stopped working last fall

  I bought 2 of these several years ago.  One still works the other failed after a couple hours

[Racinbob 11,702]

45 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

  I bought 2 of these several years ago.  One still works the other failed after a couple hours

Which is exactly why I wanted spare(s) on the shelf. 

[Lee1977 7,020]

29 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

  I bought 2 of these several years ago.  One still works the other failed after a couple hours

 

I bought 3 of those cheap ones two are still working and one lasted a couple of days.

[peter lena 9,074]

@gt14rider   have the CARBOLE  MICRO electric  pumps , low pressure 2-3.5  models similar in size shape to others , also have a fuel check valve just before carb , so you can see standing fuel  going to carb . lots of time on them , no issues , pete 

[Mike'sHorseBarn 3,115]

I'm gonna get one of those facet's to put on my C-161. It has a hard time getting fuel from the tank to start up when it's been sitting for a while and cranks and cranks. An electric fuel pump should remedy that.

[ebinmaine 70,494]

1 hour ago, Mike'sHorseBarn said:

I'm gonna get one of those facet's to put on my C-161. It has a hard time getting fuel from the tank to start up when it's been sitting for a while and cranks and cranks. An electric fuel pump should remedy that.

 

 

It absolutely will Mike.

 

The only running horse I have one of those pumps on right now is the 1974 C160-8 Tecumsehorse. 

I went that direction because rebuilding the OE fuel pump was more than a challenge and I didn't want to deal with it at the time. Glad I did. That thing starts almost instantly every single time no matter how cold.