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We wouldn’t have won without them.

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ebinmaine

I wish more women had stayed in the skilled labor workforce. We'd be FAR better off and advanced by now. 

 

 

Our friend has been nearly obsessed with most things military and all things World War II forever. 

When they got 2 kittens a year or so ago Trina helped name them. 

 

Rosie and Amelia.  

 

 

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peter lena

@953 nut   my wifes  aunt  was in the FBI during the war ,  was in the  related military  , issues  , area , her soon to be husband  , was in the 3rd army  , as a forward  scout , with patton  , was one of the first to  find the  "  camps " he had  photo albums  , seen every stage of extermination  , he had a aura  of  humanity about him that could only be  acquired , in  massive  death areas . could also  make some the best food , you have ever eaten  , starting in simmering  pork fat , aunt catherine , is 98 now  , we will be at the  family gathering , she is still sharp !  amazing  , pete    

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kpinnc

From a purely numbers perspective, the ability of the US to replace every lost plane, boat, and tank with two more is what finally broke the axis down. 

 

In short, we would have run out of warm bodies long before running out of machines. It can (and often is) argued that our manufacturing power more than anything won WW2. That is why they are referred to as "the greatest generation". It took the collective efforts of all. 

 

As a veteran myself, I will never say anything that in any way slights the sacrifices made by those in uniform. That being said, when home has your back there is no limit to what you can achieve. 

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953 nut
20 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

It took the collective efforts of all. 

One of the most interesting people I ever met was  a lady who had been a WASP (Woman's Airforce Service Pilot) during World War Two. She had flown everything from the P-51 Mustangs to the B-17 bombers but wasn't able to get a job as a commercial airline pilot because she was a woman. She also flew planes towing targets near training bases so that soldiers and sailors could practice live anti-aircraft gunnery exercises. 

The WASPs flew new airplanes from the factory where they were built to US military bases to free up military pilots. They frequently flew cargo to bases near ports and flew planes back to factories when refurbishing was needed.  

 

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1mor Project

Although I'm sure her story isn't unique, it sounds like you are describing Elizabeth (Betty Wall) Strohfus. We all knew her as Liz. She was from Faribault, Minnesota. We would see her all over during Air Show season. She was so much fun in her later years, I can only imagine what she was like in her 20's. We always had her as a guest at our St. Paul shows along with many other WWII personalities and dignitaries. One of the dignitaries was General Eugene Andreotti Jr., Adjutant General of the Minnesota Air National Guard. (His father was a member of our local CAF Wing). One day he was talking to her and pointed to the F-16 that was visiting from the Duluth Guard unit, "Have you ever flown a Jet Liz?" Long story short, a couple weeks later her phone rang. He had to get permission from the Pentagon. They were concerned if a 71 year old woman could handle a flight in an F-16. "I don't know anyone that could handle it better!", was her reply.

When she arrived at the 148th's base in Duluth, she was fitted with a "G" suit and helmet and strapped in. Tim Cossalter, the Wing Commander was her pilot. Tim was very careful to give his "Elderly" passenger a nice smooth ride. They climbed to sufficient altitude and away from all other traffic and her asked her if she would like to handle the controls a while. "Would I!" she declared! She snapped the stick to the left. Instantly her "G" suit puffed up as the needle read "six Gs". "Easy" Tim said, "I don't have a brown bag up here!" "That's OK, you can have mine !" she replied. Soon they were dancing through the cloud as she took full advantage of the opportunity. Too soon they had to return to the Base. Her excitement bubbled over to all who waited for her. "They can have their 20,000 leagues under the sea. I'll take 20,000 up in the air just like that anytime!"

The airport in Faribault is named in her honor.

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kpinnc
1 hour ago, 953 nut said:

She also flew planes towing targets near training bases so that soldiers and sailors could practice live anti-aircraft gunnery exercises. 

 

Proves she had bigger balls than most male counterparts... I sure as heck wouldn't tow a target for new recruits to practice shooting at. They don't make ropes long enough for such things! 

 

The men of that generation were tough. The women were too! 

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rjg854

My mom and dad were both in the Army during WWII. Mom was in Texas, and Dad was in Africa.

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953 nut

@1mor Project, the WASP I knew was also very adventurous. Her father had been a commercial fisherman and after the war she bought a boat and joined him in business. She met and married a former US Navy UDT (frogman) who joined her in the business and after they retired they spent several years bumming around on a house-boat in the Caribbean.

I first met her when they joined the group that led to the formation of the UDT/SEALs Museum in Fort Piercer, FL. I told her many times she should writ a book about all of her exploits. As I recall it there were less than a thousand ladies the made it through WASP training. She did a great deal of work contacting people who knew people in high places to keep the ball rolling. The day of the groundbreaking there probably weren't and Admirals left in the Pentagon, they were all lined up with shovels in hand. She was also working on the formation of a WASP Museum but didn't live to see that happen.

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8ntruck

My mom worked for a while in one of the steel mills in Gary, In.  She talked of inspecting plates and marking defects that needed to be ground out.

 

Dad got a tour of north Africa while he was a weight and balance officer in the Army Air Core.

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Wayne0

Dad flew a B-17. Mom was a nurse.

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MainelyWheelhorse

From what I’ve heard from my Parents, my Maternal Grandfather was in the Army. My Aunt (his daughter) had researched that he was in every major battle in WWII. It was to the extent he’s in some of the video that was taken. His involvement was enough that he became a bodyguard for Eisenhower, to stave off what I assume was war related PTSD. He has a keepsake book of wartime pictures and some patches from German soldiers. My Maternal grandmother was a librarian and homemaker.

 

My Paternal Grandfather was part of the Military Police and calculated where to aim the guns at targets on a battleship. My Paternal Grandmother helped with the war effort. All of my info is second hand.

 

I also had a Great Uncle that was in Pearl Harbor. He was on I believe the West Virginia when it was attacked and swam through burning oil to survive.

 

In keeping with the women in war subject, I also had a Great Aunt who was a nurse during WWII. She embodied the grit, toughness, and determination to succeed, that defined what a Rosie the Riveter was then. 

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Pete D

My dad was an Ensign on the Tarawa at the end of the war. 

My uncle was an army machine gunner at Normandy, and also in the Battle of the Bulge. He walked across a good portion of Europe. 

One day, he was riding on a transport because walking with a 30 cal was hard work.  Around midday his C.O. yelled at him to get off and give someone else a chance to ride.

About 10 minutes later they were hit by mortar fire, and the guy riding the transport had his head blown clean off.

He didn't feel so bad about walking after that.

 

I just noticed this was about ladies during the war.

 

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953 nut

Though the day being celebrated is dedicated to the women who stepped previously male dominated jobs there is nothing wrong with showing pride in the loyalty to our country by ALL members of the GREATEST GENERATION. 

9 hours ago, Pete D said:

dad was an Ensign on the Tarawa at the end of the war. 

The battle of Tarawa was the impetus behind the formation of the UDTs (Underwater Demolition Teams). No reconnaissance had been done prior to the landing and a shallow off shore reef coupled with a low tide contributed to the loss of over 1,000 lives and 2,000 injuries.

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