Gilou15 23 #1 Posted March 19 (edited) Salut les gars ! J'ai deux choix aujourd'hui : -Une 416 huit vitesses 1000€ (P216) - Une C161 Auto 1300€ (K341) Que pensez-vous de En France c'est rare et cher... Edited March 19 by Gilou15 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 70,206 #2 Posted March 19 Given the choice between the two I would choose the C160 as long as you're okay with hydros. That will be a great tractor with a great transmission and also a hydropowered lift mechanism. A 416 and a C160 are both great choices. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasterdad 2,942 #3 Posted March 19 17 minutes ago, Gilou15 said: - Une C161 Auto 1300€ (K341) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 57,291 #4 Posted March 19 Hi guys! I have two choices today: - An eight-speed 416 for €1,000 (P216) - A C161 automatic for €1,300 (K341) What do you think of... In France, they're rare and expensive... In my opinion the 416 would be the better choice especially if it is a 1987 or 1988 which has the Kohler engine. The eight speed transaxle tends to be trouble free for much longer. À mon avis, le 416 serait le meilleur choix, surtout s'il s'agit d'un modèle de 1987 ou 1988 équipé du moteur Kohler. La boîte-pont à huit rapports offre généralement une durée de vie beaucoup plus longue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blasterdad 2,942 #5 Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, 953 nut said: In my opinion the 416 would be the better choice especially if it is a 1987 or 1988 which has the Kohler engine. @Gilou15 The P216 is an Onan engine 10 minutes ago, 953 nut said: The eight speed transaxle tends to be trouble free for much longer. I have never had ANY problems with my Hydro Transmissions. I have that same tractor, it's a beast & one of my favorites. IMG_1786.MOV 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 13,407 #6 Posted March 19 Go with the C-161. Onans are good engines, but can be fickle and repair parts are expensive if you find them at all. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gilou15 23 #7 Posted March 19 Thanks for all yours answers! It is a Toro power plus (Onan )on the 416 .... For the 161 : is there a difference with a 160 ? However,I would prefer Eaton than Sundstrand..and the diff 10 pinions is it reliable ..Is it really limited slip ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 70,206 #8 Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Gilou15 said: diff 10 pinions is it reliable ..Is it really limited slip ?? Early Sundstrand, up to 1971 maybe, had the 10 pinion Limited Slip Differential. I'm quite sure from 1974 up which is what a C160 (1974 to 1977) or C161 (1978 +) could be, has the Heavier Duty well-known 8 pinion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,978 #9 Posted March 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, ebinmaine said: Early Sundstrand, up to 1971 maybe, had the 10 pinion Limited Slip Differential. I'm quite sure from 1974 up which is what a C160 (1974 to 1977) or C161 (1978 +) could be, has the Heavier Duty well-known 8 pinion. Last two runs of the 10 pinion was a early 1973 Raider 12 Model 1-0350 and a 1973 14 HP no name Model 1-0340 according to the list I have. Edited March 19 by Lee1977 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gilou15 23 #10 Posted Friday at 01:27 PM Yes ! probably a C161 has 8 pinions diff in 1978 ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 70,206 #11 Posted Friday at 01:38 PM 10 minutes ago, Gilou15 said: Yes ! probably a C161 has 8 pinions diff in 1978 ! Certainly should 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gilou15 23 #12 Posted Friday at 02:22 PM On 3/19/2025 at 11:42 AM, Blasterdad said: @Gilou15 The P216 is an Onan engine I have never had ANY problems with my Hydro Transmissions. I have that same tractor, it's a beast & one of my favorites. IMG_1786.MOV 251.39 MB · 1 download Wonderful collection !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
