wallfish 17,249 #26 Posted February 19 9 hours ago, Rick53 said: your obvious superior knowledge HA, not likely! Just been there done that before. None of us were born with any tractor knowledge so that's why we're all here, to share and learn. It's like the one little oasis on the internet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick53 3 #27 Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, wallfish said: HA, not likely! Just been there done that before. None of us were born with any tractor knowledge so that's why we're all here, to share and learn. It's like the one little oasis on the internet. lol Well I got it all working . Put new seals in the auger . In doing so I noticed that some of the teeth appear worn lower then others . I can tell that some are smaller teeth when new . But what I see is some uneven wear . I have snow I need to move So for now will use it a couple of days . I'm thinking I should get a new sprocket welded on . I have a brother in Law who welds for a living . He says just get a sprocket and he'll do it after winter . Have any idea where I can find a sprocket . I don't see where Toro even offers one. It's a 30 tooth staggered height and measures roughly 5 inches . I don't find where Toro offers any specs online . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,249 #28 Posted February 20 https://www.surpluscenter.com/Sprockets-Roller-Chain/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wayne0 772 #29 Posted February 20 staggered height?? What is that? MacMaster Carr for sprockets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick53 3 #30 Posted February 20 14 minutes ago, Wayne0 said: staggered height?? What is that? MacMaster Carr for sprockets. not sure about the staggered height . every other sprocket is slightly shorter . It may be wear . But seems like an old pattern . How would every other tooth be slightly and consistently shorter . And that be wear ? Do you happen to know the original size sprocket? Someone else said 40 tooth to go with a 40 chain. That didn't seem to make sense . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 13,143 #31 Posted February 20 17 hours ago, Rick53 said: not sure about the staggered height . every other sprocket is slightly shorter . It may be wear . But seems like an old pattern . How would every other tooth be slightly and consistently shorter . And that be wear ? Do you happen to know the original size sprocket? Someone else said 40 tooth to go with a 40 chain. That didn't seem to make sense . A staggered tooth height on a sprocket might be intended for shifting via lifting the chain. That plus machined “ramps” on the side of the sprocket is normal for derailleur-shifted bicycles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick53 3 #32 Posted February 20 3 hours ago, Handy Don said: A staggered tooth height on a sprocket might be intended for shifting via lifting the chain. That plus machined “ramps” on the side of the sprocket is normal for derailleur-shifted bicycles. The sprocket on the auger probably will need replacing . I can hear and feel a slight sticking clunk . It doesn't do it every time . I need to move some snow or I'd take it off now and weld a New sprocket on it. The sprocket on the shaft looks plenty good and I replaced the bearings lock collars . I also put new bearings in the auger . New chain and New idler pulley and bolt. So the only thing left would be the auger sprocket. Weather report says warming trend . We've had a lot of snow I may have to replace the same parts I just replaced by running it with the sprocket wear . They are inexpensive , Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lagersolut 719 #33 Posted February 21 (edited) @Rick53 My take on every other tooth lower sounds like at some point in your blowers life someone replaced the chain with something they had laying around or bought the wrong size/pitch - a roller was landing on every other valley other roller landing on top of a tooth - it's very important to run the right size chain.....Without seeing it we're kind of shooting in the dark - if it were mine I'd install the correct chain - set the tension and run it - then check it after a good workout to see it the chain rides over teeth - if it doesn't skip teeth I'd run it keep an eye on it . Replacing the sprocket would be my last resort ...I'd be concerned with balance - these single stage augers turn at a high RPM - if the new sprocket is even a little off it with vibrate like crazy and probably burn bearings - just my 2cents Edited February 21 by Lagersolut 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick53 3 #34 Posted February 21 15 hours ago, Lagersolut said: @Rick53 My take on every other tooth lower sounds like at some point in your blowers life someone replaced the chain with something they had laying around or bought the wrong size/pitch - a roller was landing on every other valley other roller landing on top of a tooth - it's very important to run the right size chain.....Without seeing it we're kind of shooting in the dark - if it were mine I'd install the correct chain - set the tension and run it - then check it after a good workout to see it the chain rides over teeth - if it doesn't skip teeth I'd run it keep an eye on it . Replacing the sprocket would be my last resort ...I'd be concerned with balance - these single stage augers turn at a high RPM - if the new sprocket is even a little off it with vibrate like crazy and probably burn bearings - just my 2cents Yeah I was wondering that . To be honest I'm not 100 percent sure the auger wasn't hitting the housing . What is the correct chain a 40 ? I'm assuming it is from websites selling the Toro OEM Chain and referring to it as a 40 .If I were to have to replace the auger . There's a Toro Dealer that's been around since the 1960's. The guys working there seemed to describe my symptoms pretty accurately . They told me a lot of what they have seen in the past with damage on these models . Was installing the idler pulley bolt in backwards . With the bolt head on the inside instead of the outside. Along with the wrong placement of the washers and spacer . Causing the Idle pulley to run in a slightly canted position. As I have mentioned to begin with . All the guy I bought this from sent was the bolt washers and spacer . After buying a New OEM Idler pulley. I could tell the bolt was very slightly bent . Which canted the pulley . So I replaced the bolt. After replacing the shaft bearing as well as the auger bearings . A New chain ,idler pulley and bolt . It's 80% quieter when free handing the auger . I didn't bring the auger to the Dealer I mentioned . So their advice is speculative .The mechanic told me with all the parts I replaced . If the Sprocket is just slightly worn funny . It may seat in with a few running's. Like you they suggested running it while checking the wear after use. They also said the chain guard at the auger is something they would leave off . As it accumulates so much ice up and behind the chain. that unless I melt everything off after each use . Which isn't even possible with daily snowfall for a week at times. Leaving that off , even if I did pick up something I shouldn't with the auger . It's less apt to damage something like the chain guard is under normal use . Who knows ?? Thanks for the input Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,249 #35 Posted February 22 8 hours ago, Rick53 said: What is the correct chain a 40 ? yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick53 3 #36 Posted February 22 14 hours ago, wallfish said: yes Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
