Handy Don 13,266 #26 Posted February 11 8 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: posts regarding wheel bearings failing, other than due to rust / lack of lubrication Yep. Surely from long hours of heavy use there will be wear, but failures? None that I can recall either. Lube ‘em and run ‘em! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 70,393 #27 Posted February 11 @SylvanLakeWH and @Handy Don As you guys are probably aware I've taken apart and rebuilt at least a dozen Transmissions of various configurations. Nearly ALL of them got at least one bearing on one side. I believe most of those were because of lack of lubrication and care as stated. I have however seen a couple that were absolutely positively beat to snot and even bent. Were they extreme situations? Were they in something before I got it that was really working too hard for too long? I'll never know..... Seeing the rated limits in the previous post certainly makes me feel quite a bit better about the future potential. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,925 #28 Posted February 11 A needle roller bearings is thus able to withstand 2 to 8 times more load than ball bearings or cylindrical roller bearings of the same shaft diameter, all this in a small space. At the same time, they are suitable for rocking motion due to the small inertial force caused by rotation. Needle roller bearings are suitable for lightweight, small machine designs, and they can also be used to replace plain bearings. Needle roller and retainer assembly is the main type of needle roller bearing, which includes a needle roller and a mechanical retainer that supports it. In space-required miniaturized designs, the shaft and bearing housing (box) itself act as a bearing ring. It is often used in reciprocating compressors and small engine connecting rod bearings, especially the design of the retainer can be used in environments with large changes in speed, acceleration and deceleration, high temperature, and poor lubrication conditions. Per a Google search.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 13,266 #29 Posted February 11 8 minutes ago, ri702bill said: Per a Google search.... Per Google's “AI Summarizer”? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 40,306 #30 Posted February 11 2 hours ago, Handy Don said: Static: 18,142 lbs. Dynamic: 7.846 lbs. Thanks Don. pretty much confirms the previous discussion on this. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,925 #31 Posted February 11 41 minutes ago, Handy Don said: Per Google's “AI Summarizer”? Nope - an actual search on Google - Old School. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 70,393 #32 Posted February 11 @Pete D My apologies for leading the topic astray... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 13,266 #33 Posted February 11 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: @Pete D My apologies for leading the topic astray... Well we’ve certainly confirmed that the outer bearings can handle a heavy weight box! To close the loop, gild the lily, show off, and fully satisfy my curiosity.... A 1533 ball bearing supports the inner end of each axle. Loads are at the wheel (~3” from the B1816), at the B1816, and at the 1533 (~8” from the B1816) so to match the outer bearing, the inner must have only 37.5% of the outer's dynamic load capacity, which I’m confident that it has but specs are not available! So after accounting for all the geometries: to avoid risk of rear bearing failure, keep the load on a moving tractor at or below 11,400 lbs. on the rear axle (evenly across the two wheels). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 42,364 #34 Posted February 11 You can hang suitcase weights on the edge of the weight box. No pics but I used to do that with my Power King 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HyperPete 440 #35 Posted February 11 I have thought about this, but I'll have to reinforce the box. The metal is pretty light gauge. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 50,561 #36 Posted February 11 Me thinks Don just put a tractor on the moon... and Pete just wanted to know about what weights... interesting nonetheless. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HyperPete 440 #37 Posted February 12 4 hours ago, ebinmaine said: @Pete D My apologies for leading the topic astray... No worries, I'm here to learn. 👍 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 50,561 #38 Posted February 12 3 hours ago, squonk said: hang suitcase weights on the edge of the weight box. Hate to say Squonky has a good idea but... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 42,364 #39 Posted February 12 12 hours ago, WHX?? said: Hate to say Squonky has a good idea but... HEY!! I tell everyone I'm not as stupid as I look! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 42,364 #40 Posted February 12 12 hours ago, WHX?? said: Hate to say Squonky has a good idea but... HEY!! I tell everyone I'm not as stupid as I look! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 50,561 #41 Posted February 12 55 minutes ago, squonk said: HEY!! I tell everyone I'm not as stupid as I look! 55 minutes ago, squonk said: HEY!! I tell everyone I'm not as stupid as I look! Yah well then what's with the double post?!?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 42,364 #42 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, WHX?? said: Yah well then what's with the double post?!?!?! My ancient PC was going thru an update. I hit reply and it went to a screen saying it wasn't sent 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HyperPete 440 #43 Posted February 14 Do you think I can hang this from the weight box? 😉 https://www.facebook.com/share/15soLNb615/?mibextid=kL3p88 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thor27 832 #44 Posted February 14 17 hours ago, Pete D said: Do you think I can hang this from the weight box? 😉 https://www.facebook.com/share/15soLNb615/?mibextid=kL3p88 ONCE. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HyperPete 440 #45 Posted February 15 Do you think I can hang this from the weight box? 😉 https://www.facebook.com/share/15soLNb615/?mibextid=kL3p88 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 13,266 #46 Posted February 15 Well within the ~11,000 lb capacity of the UniDrive 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 40,306 #47 Posted February 15 11 hours ago, Pete D said: Do you think I can hang this from the weight box? No problem if you have a FEL with the capacity to lift it. You will need to increase the pressure in the rear tires to 110 -115psi. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites