wheel horse

[mike avad 44]

I have a 1976 B-80 wheel horse. the front rim seen to come lose on me and I'v clean the bolt and put Loctite on it and it still not keeping Tite it has 2 big washer one in the front and one in the back of the rim and a bolt to hold it in place. the other side seem to be ok but it just the one side that coming lose am thinking that the outer washer might not be setting right cuz when I titeing the bolt the rim is hard to turn.

[Ed Kennell 40,453]

Both are right hand threads, so the right one tends to tighten and the left one tends to loosen.   A small punch mark on the outside thread of the nut may make it a locking nut.

 

[mike avad 44]

This doesn't have a locking nut on it just a bolt and when I tighting  the bolt the wheel hard to move?

[Ed Kennell 40,453]

3 minutes ago, mike avad said:

This doesn't have a locking nut on it just a bolt and when I tighting  the bolt the wheel hard to move?

Again, I have made a regular nut a locking nut y using a punch to make a small dent in the outside thread of the nut.

[Ed Kennell 40,453]

3 minutes ago, Ed Kennell said:

Again, I have made a regular nut a locking nut y using a punch to make a small dent in the outside thread of the nut.

Or just buy and use a nylock nut.

[pfrederi 18,322]

12 minutes ago, mike avad said:

This doesn't have a locking nut on it just a bolt and when I tighting  the bolt the wheel hard to move?

The washer needs to press against the inner race of the bearing and nothing else.  If it hits the outer race or the wheel hub it will jam the wheel when you tighten it.    I bought some of these a few years ago use them on the left side...

 

 

[Handy Don 13,340]

I think Mike is referring to the keeper bolt threaded into the spindle axle. No nut involved.

 

Yes, if you are tightening the bolt and it “freezes” the wheel, something is not aligned or spaced correctly. Loctite’s role is to make an already tight mechanical connection stay tight. it will NOT hold a bolt that is still loose in the threaded axle.

So, we need pictures and measurements. My instinct is that your front wheels' bushings or bearings combined with any washers on the axle on both sides are making the wheel too wide to fit under the bolt head with its smaller washer which fits only between the bolt head and the end of the axle. 

Edited February 6 by Handy Don

[ri702bill 8,951]

Yup - what Don said. A BIT of "tightness" is desired to keep the inner bearing races from rotating on the spindle shaft, but only .002 to .005 inch preload....

[rmaynard 15,911]

Try a thinner washer in the back.

[Ed Kennell 40,453]

1 hour ago, mike avad said:

bolt to hold it in place

Sorry Mike. My bad for not reading ...I thought it was a nut.

[ri702bill 8,951]

It sounds like at least washer fits over the spindle - it is too thick.

[mike avad 44]

OK thanks I'LL check that out

[mike avad 44]

OK thank you all for your reply I will check it out

[kpinnc 13,703]

Probably a good time to replace the bearings too. Even if your preload from the retaining bolt is a little tight, the bearing shouldn't have enough resistance to turn the bolt. In addition to too many washers, your bearings might be worn enough to allow binding under pressure. 

[mike avad 44]

OK thank you

 

 

[adsm08 2,633]

6 hours ago, Handy Don said:

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Yes, if you are tightening the bolt and it “freezes” the wheel, something is not aligned or spaced correctly. Loctite’s role is to make an already tight mechanical connection stay tight. it will NOT hold a bolt that is still loose in the threaded axle.

 

 

You've never used the green stuff. We use that stuff to glue metal parts together.

[mike avad 44]

Yes I have tried that didn't work I think I fix it look's a real thin washer behind the big one  to meany on the outside of the rim. Thank you for your reply