Patina maintenance

[pfrederi 18,090]

There have been several suggestions on how to coat a WH with something to resist rust and preserve what is left of original finish.  Some involve oils (Marvel Mystery oil etc).  I have recently got this GT1848.  She will be a worker hooked up to the cyclovac.  My concern here stems fro long time ago experience.  Back in the old Army we liked our trucks to be a bit shiny (pre Camouflage  days).  Wiping the truck down with DF2 (diesel) before inspection made them look sharp....however within a day or two motor pool dust stuck to the diesel residue and you had a clean up issue.  I do not want what ever i use on the GT to be a dust /dirt magnet (cylcovac work can be messy).  What should I consider using...  I have no interest in repainting what will be a worker.  Finish now is in good shape just a few surface rust spots....

 

 

[peter lena 8,946]

@pfrederi  been doing over my paints for years  with lubrication , never have  or had  them turn into a dust / dirt magnet .initially  like a penetrating oil  spray / light rub down , let it sit  a day or two , you want the  lubrication to soak into the finish  , then rub it down with a clean soft  , mineral oil  soaked cloth , again  let it sit  , then a wipe down till dry , like a 6 " electric palm buffer , with cleaner wax , if its going to break thru the grunge , it will do it then . none of my horses has surface rust on them , also  just a clean cloth / mineral oil rub down , freshens them right up . try  that hood top first , nothing to loose , pete  

[ebinmaine 69,349]

22 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

I do not want what ever i use on the GT to be a dust /dirt magnet

 

That got me thinking...

It seems after some interwebs poking on the forums of the past that ALL waxes sealants and oils will attract dust by the simple science of static electricity.  The action of you applying the product literally creates a static attractive charge to the metal machine. 

 

 

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

Finish now is in good shape just a few surface rust spots

 

Getting the surface rust taken care of is easy enough with a wet sanding. 

 

Protection of the end result? 

Well I dunno know....

 

 

[rjg854 11,647]

@squonk talks a product called Flood, it will leave at a dry finish and also a shine.

[squonk 41,774]

Penetrol Flood. Sold at Lowes and other fine retailers. Wipe or brush on. Walk away.

 

 

Did these fenders.

 

[SylvanLakeWH 26,357]

 

Great stuff. (Works on fiberglass boats too. That's where I learned about it).

[lynnmor 7,447]

It appears that you have enough paint left to use this with a polisher, I think you will be amazed after polishing and waxing.

[OutdoorEnvy 1,678]

I’ve had pretty good results too with just a basic turtle wax hand polish kit.  It’s cheap, fast and easy.  The dirt and dust don’t stick near as much as any oil or lubricants do.  And what is on there blows off with a blower.  Water beads up nice and runs off well too.  
 

I use oil and lubricants in winter but switch to the turtle wax hand polishing in mowing seasons.  

[ri702bill 8,636]

Have you seen any episodes of "Roadworthy Rescues"?? Derrick is about 1-1/4 steps up from Taryl. He owns Vise Grip Garage. He has a product he sells as a wipe on patina saver. Looks semi-impressive for both application & finished results. Eastwood probably has the same thing...

 

https://store.motortrend.com/collections/roadworthy-rescues

[Wayne0 664]

1 hour ago, ri702bill said:

Have you seen any episodes of "Roadworthy Rescues"?? Derrick is about 1-1/4 steps up from Taryl. He owns Vise Grip Garage. He has a product he sells as a wipe on patina saver. Looks semi-impressive for both application & finished results. Eastwood probably has the same thing...

 

https://store.motortrend.com/collections/roadworthy-rescues

Big fan of Derrick.

[pfrederi 18,090]

This will be a worker.  No waxing polishing buffing etc... Like the Flood idea...

[Wayne0 664]

On 1/19/2025 at 3:57 PM, squonk said:

Penetrol Flood. Sold at Lowes and other fine retailers. Wipe or brush on. Walk away.

 

 

Did these fenders.

 

I have some "Flood" left behind by the painters except it's for latex. Wonder if it will work?

[SylvanLakeWH 26,357]

9 minutes ago, Wayne0 said:

I have some "Flood" left behind by the painters except it's for latex. Wonder if it will work?

I have used both. Remember it is intended as a paint additive, so it's formulated for oil or water based paint before cure. We use it on existing cured painted surfaces. I've had great results on both metal and fiberglass...

[Thor27 817]

Flood also does a pretty good job on bringing plastic knobs and handles back too.

[Racinbob 11,393]

I certainly wouldn't use oil but I second (or 3rd, or 4th.....) the Flood Penetrol. I'm not going to use it on Dino but I just did a sample on one of the footrests. It was still wet when I took the picture so it may not end up quite as shiny but I think you'd like it. I might end up using it on my 76. 

 

[Racinbob 11,393]

8 hours ago, Thor27 said:

Flood also does a pretty good job on bringing plastic knobs and handles back too.

 

And so I went back downstairs and did Dinos knobs. I like!

 

[ebinmaine 69,349]

Is there a particular application process for this stuff? Or does it vary depending on the amount of rust or the amount of roughness? Any particular steps? Certain amount of sandpaper? Other hints?

[Racinbob 11,393]

11 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

Is there a particular application process for this stuff? Or does it vary depending on the amount of rust or the amount of roughness? Any particular steps? Certain amount of sandpaper? Other hints?

 

It's intended to mix with the paint to get it to 'lay down' better and not get brush marks. Penetrol for oil based, Floetrol for latex. Looking at the online videos I think it's used more for things like we're discussing here. There's videos of guys doing their entire vehicle. 

 

I think the prep work is pretty much open. A clean surface and sanded to whatever suits you. 

Edited January 22 by Racinbob

[SylvanLakeWH 26,357]

 

We used it on a 1972 green fiberglass boat and a 1968 red fiberglass boat for years... it would last the season... Both chalky from uv light... wash, dry, spread it on with a rag, done.

 

Same with 's... 

 

 

[squonk 41,774]

Depends on the "look " you want. I just clean off and dirt and wipe it on with a rag or brush. 

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,669]

Flood Penetrol is what I used on my 77 B-80. 
  Skip the motor oil completely no matter what the “greasy guy” says on here. 
  No oily residue and it’s not a dust magnet. I just wiped it on with a rag. 

 

[Sparky-(Admin) 21,669]

  This 857 was shot with a clear from a rattle can. I’m not a fan, or maybe I just don’t like how the previous owner skipped/missed sections. 
  But I’m stuck with it now.

 

 

 

 

 

[Racinbob 11,393]

1 hour ago, squonk said:

Depends on the "look " you want. I just clean off and dirt and wipe it on with a rag or brush. 

Exactly what I did on the sample. Dry rag wipe and a glue brush. I bought the stuff with plans on doing Dino with it but that project kinda expanded. I'm definitely doing my 76 with it once the weather permits.