parks416 22 #1 Posted January 12 I have a single stage wheel horse thrower. Previously had it mounted on an SK-486. Mounted it yesterday to my 520-H with swept front axle. At first pully's had enough clearance but as I used it either the belt or the spring stretched the pully now rubs the axle. Are this meant to be compatible with a swept font end? Should I buy shorter belt or spring? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,082 #2 Posted January 12 Idlers are set up incorrectly never have an idler on the power side of the belt routing 4 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,933 #3 Posted January 12 @parks416 agree with @pfrederi on that set up , just to be curious , how easily does that drive belt move that auger set up BY HAND ? think a lot of people don't even try that , basically , the easier it moves , the better it works , how about auger chain , tension , chain / cable lube ? had a couple of those , that recovered , and after usage , sold . learned a lot , correcting original pick up shape , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cleat 6,791 #4 Posted January 13 (edited) 21 hours ago, pfrederi said: Idlers are set up incorrectly never have an idler on the power side of the belt routing I like those chains. Do they make a big difference in turning ? My 520HC with a snow plow has issues once in a while. Edited January 13 by cleat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,082 #5 Posted January 13 They help especially if I raise the blower just a tad to increase the weight on the front. For snow plow tractor I use roller chain and added front weight 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cleat 6,791 #6 Posted January 13 11 minutes ago, pfrederi said: They help especially if I raise the blower just a tad to increase the weight on the front. For snow plow tractor I use roller chain and added front weight That roller chain ever slip off ? I was also concerned about damage to my garage floor. I could liquid fill the fronts like I did the rears for more weight as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 18,082 #7 Posted January 13 I have been using roller chain for about 10 years. Fell off once...tire had gotten a bit soft and i didn't notice the pressure loss. My shop floor is plain concrete doesn't bother it but will leave rust marks if it sits wet for awhile (but so do regular chains) Your floor looks shinny like there is a sealer not sure if it would bother it but I don't see why it would be any roughed than regular chains if you went slowly and didn't turn the wheels standing still.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldlineman 1,487 #8 Posted January 14 That's what I did several years ago, best trick for turning in snow that I have found. Just check your tire pressure and keep them tight and they will be fine. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRF857 124 #9 Posted January 14 On 1/12/2025 at 9:33 AM, pfrederi said: Idlers are set up incorrectly never have an idler on the power side of the belt routing Could you elaborate a little more please. What designates the power side of belt routing? In the picture should the idlers be on the upper leg of the belt routing? What is the advantage, or disadvantage? Somebody school me on this please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bar Nuthin 853 #10 Posted January 14 (edited) 20 minutes ago, CRF857 said: What designates the power side of belt routing? The section of belt that is doing the pulling (top belt moving counter clockwise). Quote What is the advantage, or disadvantage? Imagine trying to drag a weight with a rope. Then imagine trying to drag it with a spring in the middle. Edited January 14 by Bar Nuthin correction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,445 #11 Posted January 14 14 minutes ago, CRF857 said: Could you elaborate a little more please. What designates the power side of belt routing? In the picture should the idlers be on the upper leg of the belt routing? What is the advantage, or disadvantage? Somebody school me on this please. That straight pull from the power source (engine) to the load (implement) is the power side. Note that you didn't have straight side on your original routing, did you ever try to push a rope? If the power is applied to a run that has an idler, that idler will be pushed aside if under spring load or will be unnecessarily loaded if it is a ridged mount. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRF857 124 #12 Posted January 14 51 minutes ago, Bar Nuthin said: The section of belt that is doing the pulling (top belt moving counter clockwise). Imagine trying to drag a weight with a rope. Then imagine trying to drag it with a spring in the middle. 38 minutes ago, lynnmor said: That straight pull from the power source (engine) to the load (implement) is the power side. Note that you didn't have straight side on your original routing, did you ever try to push a rope? If the power is applied to a run that has an idler, that idler will be pushed aside if under spring load or will be unnecessarily loaded if it is a ridged mount. Thank you. That makes sense. Just never thought about it before. Will keep it in mind as I am building a tractor from leftovers of different brands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites