Raider 12

[Epayne85 11]

Hello all, I have a Raider 12 I believe to be a 1970. The deck that came on the tractor is in rough shape and I’d like to either fix it or find one in better shape for next mowing season. If any one has the model # of the deck that would be greatly appreciated!! There is no serial tag on the deck that I have found!

[ebinmaine 68,909]

 

 

Could you post pics of the deck you have and also the front of the frame of the tractor? 

[Epayne85 11]

I certainly will when I get home, it’s a 3 blade deck mid mount if that helps. It’ll be a week or so before I’m able to get pictures

[ebinmaine 68,909]

Just now, Epayne85 said:

I certainly will when I get home, it’s a 3 blade deck mid mount if that helps. It’ll be a week or so before I’m able to get pictures

 

No worries.  

The pics will show us what you have.. and what your options are.   

[Achto 27,940]

 

I have a '68 raider 12, my go to plow mule.

 

Here is al link for the manuals and attachment pdf's

 

[953 nut 56,214]

This manual will show you what will directly interchange on your .  If you add a mule drive to the front of the Raider you could use newer decks too.

 

 

[Epayne85 11]

1 hour ago, Achto said:

 

I have a '68 raider 12, my go to plow mule.

 

Here is al link for the manuals and attachment pdf's

 

Love the plow setup I definitely want one for my tractor!

[Epayne85 11]

This is the front of my raider

[ebinmaine 68,909]

10 hours ago, Epayne85 said:

This is the front of my raider

 

 

 

11 hours ago, 953 nut said:

add a mule drive

 

This is why I wanted a picture.  

 

I agree.  Add a later type mule and you'll really open up the possibilities.  

 

 

 

[pfrederi 18,019]

Actually he has a front mule drive.  The very first mule drive was a short lived item.  It had a big steel plate on the front which has been removed from his. Do not believe the lack of a plate changes the functionality.  Look at these pics an envision the big plate removed.

 

 

[Epayne85 11]

8 hours ago, pfrederi said:

Actually he has a front mule drive.  The very first mule drive was a short lived item.  It had a big steel plate on the front which has been removed from his. Do not believe the lack of a plate changes the functionality.  Look at these pics an envision the big plate removed.

 

 

I have the plate for the front, one bolt was loose and the other was missing just took it off for the time being

[Epayne85 11]

I was hoping to find the vin plate on mower deck, or find a newer one that would be even better lol

[ebinmaine 68,909]

12 minutes ago, Epayne85 said:

I was hoping to find the vin plate on mower deck, or find a newer one that would be even better lol

 

 

With that newer mule drive you can use a bunch of different decks over a broad year range.  

 

 

 

[kpinnc 12,851]

45 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

With that newer mule drive you can use a bunch of different decks over a broad year range.  

 

Hard to verify from the pic, but I think he'll need to get a belly hitch to use Tach-a-matic decks. 

[Epayne85 11]

14 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

 

Hard to verify from the pic, but I think he'll need to get a belly hitch to use Tach-a-matic decks. 

It has the belly hitch

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,146]

Is your deck a 36" width of cut?

Found some of the applications for this idler assembly.

Models 5-7365, 5-7366, 5-0600 and 5-0601 are 36" rear discharge decks.

Models 5-0710 and 5-0711 are 36" side discharge decks.

 

If a replacement deck can be found one using blades with a 3/4" center hole would be a bonus. The 5/8" x 3/4" double-D hole blades may not be available.

[Epayne85 11]

1 hour ago, gwest_ca said:

Is your deck a 36" width of cut?

Found some of the applications for this idler assembly.

Models 5-7365, 5-7366, 5-0600 and 5-0601 are 36" rear discharge decks.

Models 5-0710 and 5-0711 are 36" side discharge decks.

 

If a replacement deck can be found one using blades with a 3/4" center hole would be a bonus. The 5/8" x 3/4" double-D hole blades may not be available.

It’s a side discharge, I’m almost certain it’s a 36” being it has 3 blades

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,146]

Mower Rotary 1971 36in SD model 5-0710

 

Mower DNA

1971 model 5-0710 replaced by

1971 model 5-0711

1972 model 5-0720

1973-1974 model 5-0721

1975 model 5-0722

1976 model 65-36MS01

1977 model 75-36MS01

1977 model 75-36MS02

1978 model 85-36MS01

1979 model 95-36MS00  - These decks use blades with 5/8" x 3/4" center hole unless the spindle has been upgraded

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1979 model 95-36MS01 replaced by

1980-1982 model 05-36MS01 - Last year for bearings with 3/4" ID

1983-1984 model 05-36MS02 - First year for bearings with 17mm ID unless older spindles were updated. These decks use blades with a 3/4" center hole

 

Note - 17mm is .669"

[Epayne85 11]

What’s the difference in a charger 12 vs. the raider 12

[kpinnc 12,851]

11 minutes ago, Epayne85 said:

What’s the difference in a charger 12 vs. the raider 12

 

Chargers were hydro transmissions. Raiders were manual 6-speed transmissions. 

[Epayne85 11]

9 hours ago, kpinnc said:

 

Chargers were hydro transmissions. Raiders were manual 6-speed transmissions. 

Ok, thank you. I found a charger that looked like my raider just wondering if parts were interchangeable amongst the two tractors?

[ebinmaine 68,909]

1 hour ago, Epayne85 said:

Ok, thank you. I found a charger that looked like my raider just wondering if parts were interchangeable amongst the two tractors?

 

The mowing deck should be. 

Implements usually swap from manual to hydro just fine. 

The tractors have some interchangeable parts like engine,  frame,  hood, fender. 

The transmission tunnel/ steering tower  is different.