Fastener types on UK models/hydraulics

[Andy T 0]

Hi all, just a quick question from a newbie, my elderly uncle has asked me to have a look at his Wheel Horse mower/snow plough as it has an oil leak, I'm doing a bit of research but am not sure of the model or type yet, so trying to gather basic info before I load up the van and go to his small holding. Will I need imperial spanners and/or metric? Do they have hydraulic cylinders for the snow plow and are they hydraulic drive or belt/propshaft?

Many thanks for any info,

Best regards,

Andy

[lynnmor 7,557]

 

Just about everything on this side of the pond is imperial.  Some, perhaps most, of the tractors are manual lift for the mower and plow.  Those with a hydro transmission may have a hydraulic hydraulic cylinder, we can't help much till you get back with a model number.  In the meantime you might want to visit the Manuals section and page thru, when you know the tractor, mower and plow model numbers you should download the tractor and implement manuals.

[ri702bill 8,954]

It may depend upon where the tractor was built. Built in the USA, Fractional (Imperial) with few exceptions. Built in Belgium - Metric.

[Handy Don 13,340]

3 hours ago, Andy T said:

Many thanks for any info,

Well-lit pictures, especially of the model/serial identification plates (tractor and engine) help immensely. After that, clear sides, front, rear, and controls.

[Maxwell-8 4,366]

3 hours ago, ri702bill said:

It may depend upon where the tractor was built. Built in the USA, Fractional (Imperial) with few exceptions. Built in Belgium - Metric.

All Belgium models use imperial only. 

The Belgium factory didn't make any parts. Just painting and assembly of parts received from the US-factory. 

[Mackler 14]

Welcome to the forum, to be on the safe side I would take a set of AF spanners and a set of Metric spanners and a couple of adjustable ( Crescent } wrenches just in case the odd bolt has been replaced with an imperial Whitworth or BSF fastener which is quite possible with the age of these machines.

My Wheel Horse was built in the USA but has a Japanese Kawasaki engine which is all Metric but all the chassis fasteners are AF

I look after an ATCO tractor for a friend which has a Briggs & Stratton engine which is AF but the tractor was built in the UK so it is all Metric! 

[Achto 28,757]

 

 A lot of common SAE wrench sizes can be substituted with metric. 5/16" = 8mm,  7/16" = 11mm, 1/2 = 13mm, 9/16" = 14mm, 5/8" = 16mm, 11/16" = 17mm, 3/4" = 19mm. 

Edited December 28, 2024 by Achto

[Andy T 0]

Hello again, 

I've finally got details of the tractor, its a 518H with a 18hp Onan engine, I'm trying to find a filter kit for it, but can only find a kit for a D160 with Onan engine.

Do any of you knowledgeable folks know if this is the same engine and will the filters fit the 518H?

Many thanks in advance

Andy 

[oliver2-44 10,351]

Some Oman’s didn’t have engine filters. Guys more knowledgeable on the 518 will be here soon to help. 
That tractor has the Eaton 700 hydro transmission which does not have a transmission filter. The Eaton 700 is not as strong as the Eaton 1100. The 700 is good for mowing, but not good for ground engaging equipment. 

[Handy Don 13,340]

2 hours ago, Andy T said:

Hello again, 

I've finally got details of the tractor, its a 518H with a 18hp Onan engine, I'm trying to find a filter kit for it, but can only find a kit for a D160 with Onan engine.

Do any of you knowledgeable folks know if this is the same engine and will the filters fit the 518H?

Many thanks in advance

Andy 

I’m not sure where “Lancs” is--Lancashire way north of London?

The 18 hp Onan in the 518H and the 16hp Onan in the D160 will be very similar but with their different models (P vs B?), specs, and installation (crosswise vs. longitudinal) I wouldn’t hazard a guess on the interchangeability of an oil filter kit.

I am fairly sure that we’ve seen that the 518H export model used the Eaton 1100 transaxle. Quickest external evidence is the implement lift: manual arm = 700, hydraulic = 1100. 

Edited April 14 by Handy Don

[kpinnc 13,710]

2 hours ago, Handy Don said:

I am fairly sure that we’ve seen that the 518H export model used the Eaton 1100 transaxle.

 

This is correct. The European 518-H used the Eaton 1100 and had hydraulic lift. 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 14 by kpinnc

[Andy T 0]

8 hours ago, Handy Don said:

I’m not sure where “Lancs” is--Lancashire way north of London?

The 18 hp Onan in the 518H and the 16hp Onan in the D160 will be very similar but with their different models (P vs B?), specs, and installation (crosswise vs. longitudinal) I wouldn’t hazard a guess on the interchangeability of an oil filter kit.

I am fairly sure that we’ve seen that the 518H export model used the Eaton 1100 transaxle. Quickest external evidence is the implement lift: manual arm = 700, hydraulic = 1100. 

Yes, Lancs is Lancashire, it is a county in the north of England, further north is the county of Cumbria with the Lake district and then the Scottish border, we still have incursions from the heathens, as Hadrians wall is not what it used to be (only joking)

Thanks for the info, it is a manual lift for the implements, so I'm guessing its the 700, I'll take a chance with the D160 filter kit as I can't find an alternative over here.

[Handy Don 13,340]

6 hours ago, Andy T said:

so I'm guessing its the 700

It is conceivable that the hydro is an 1100 even without a hydraulic lift.

The less obvious determinants of a 700 are:

- under the seat, peeking out of a hole in the fender pan, is the cap for the 700’s small, plastic oil reservoir (the 1100 uses the transaxle itself as its reservoir)

- looking from the rear, there is NO cylindrical oil filter above the axle between the left rear tire and the transaxle (the 1100 has the oil filter). Arrow points to white filter here:

Edited April 14 by Handy Don