ebinmaine 68,669 #1 Posted December 13, 2024 6 6 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_Mac 8,851 #2 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) Someone tell Ed they made a 1075. 10hp Kohler on short frame. Besides the hydro difference, seat and fenders on the 1045 are unique. Edited December 14, 2024 by D_Mac 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,669 #3 Posted December 14, 2024 25 minutes ago, D_Mac said: Someone tell Ed they made a 1075. 10hp Kohler on short frame. Besides the hydro difference, seat and fenders on the 1045 are unique. Wasn't the 1055 a short frame too? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_Mac 8,851 #4 Posted December 14, 2024 Think what he ment to say it was only one with the rear fenders. Other 10hp Kohler in 65 had the seat pan rear fenders. But ooooooooo big blocks on short frames are so cool fenders or no fenders. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,055 #5 Posted December 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: Wasn't the 1055 a short frame too? Yes it was, I have one, but the video was cool anyway. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,345 #6 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) Not as rare as they say I know a bunch of guys here that have them and that's just the guys here. This guy says rusty??? He's on crack thats PATINA!!!! Prolly doesn't know what a Blitz Fogger or character is either. Would bet a 1055 is a big block in a short frame ... The seat??? It's remembering it's past... Edited December 14, 2024 by WHX?? 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,669 #7 Posted December 14, 2024 18 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Blitz Fogger Them're neat. I gotta get mine set up on a tractor. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T-Mo-(Moderator) 4,513 #9 Posted December 14, 2024 I enjoy watching Classic Tractor Fever, but I have noticed that the owners of these classic tractors, often don't know squat about the older tractors. I've heard and seen several mis-information the owners make on the show, and the show itself apparently don't know themselves as they never correct the owners. That's one of the reasons I take the information from tractordata.com with a grain of salt as there are some mis-info on that site as well. I have found a few mistakes on the site. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,669 #10 Posted December 14, 2024 45 minutes ago, T-Mo said: I enjoy watching Classic Tractor Fever, but I have noticed that the owners of these classic tractors, often don't know squat about the older tractors. I've heard and seen several mis-information the owners make on the show, and the show itself apparently don't know themselves as they never correct the owners. That's one of the reasons I take the information from tractordata.com with a grain of salt as there are some mis-info on that site as well. I have found a few mistakes on the site. Agreed. I put a comment on the video adding the other Short frame big block siblings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 63,139 #11 Posted December 14, 2024 And how do we know it was only 3 months production, if Cecil himself said they kept no record of production? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,055 #12 Posted December 14, 2024 12 hours ago, D_Mac said: they made a 1075. 10hp Kohler on short frame 12 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Wasn't the 1055 a short frame too? 10 hours ago, WHX?? said: Not as rare as they say 1 hour ago, T-Mo said: I've heard and seen several mis-information the owners make on the show, 18 minutes ago, Pullstart said: And how do we know it was only 3 months production, if Cecil himself said they kept no record of production? Picky ! ! ! Picky ! ! ! Picky ! ! ! The guy has a nice Wheel Horse, any of us would be proud to add it to our stable. From time to time some incorrect information has been posted on Red Square by any and all of us, it isn't ignorance, in most cases it is misinformation we got from others. I applaud the fact the Classic Tractor Fever took the time to feature a rather than a green thing and thank @ebinmaine for bringing it to us. OK, I will get down from my soap box now! 8 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,675 #13 Posted December 14, 2024 10 hours ago, WHX?? said: thats PATINA!!!! Nah, that's rust. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,575 #14 Posted December 14, 2024 10 hours ago, WHX?? said: He's on crack thats PATINA!!!! That's character! 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_Mac 8,851 #15 Posted December 14, 2024 If it's a show that's suppose to be informative then it should be correct on what it's saying. It's saying it's rare because of limited production and it was the only model with 10hp on short frame. Don't try and over sell it. Sure it's a great looking Wheel Horse but that dosnt make it rare. All of mine were only produced one year only. 875, 1075, and 856. In 1967 they stopped producing the 856 and started calling it the 857. That's so rare ! Come on. If the show is previewing any make or model tractor, red, green, blue, or yellow it should be ture on how it is represented. Fake News. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,724 #16 Posted December 14, 2024 Most all the information we process has always had someone’s personal twist on it. In all the years since speech became a thing it has not changed. Today it is more prevalent than ever. But it isn’t new. I despise the word misinformation, because everything is misinformation by the rules of those who call it that. Perception is everything, and it varies from one person to another. Welcome to Earth. So what do we do? What clear headed humans have always done: You do your own research and decide what to believe for yourself. I know the fella in the video was incorrect on a couple points. But it was nice to see a (very) shiny red Wheel Horse featured on anything. We all know he maybe was a little too proud, but I’m ok with that. My neighbors think I’m an idiot when Sunday afternoons sound like a fleet of Harleys are echoing from my yard. I assure you they laugh about what they perceive as my silliness too. …After all, the best place currently to discuss such things needs an occasional new topic, right? 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,055 #17 Posted December 14, 2024 3 hours ago, D_Mac said: a show that's suppose to be informative then it should be correct on what it's saying. Too bad the network news programs aren't held to that standard. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 26,066 #18 Posted December 14, 2024 I liked the video... Thanks @ebinmaine!!! And as usual, your post should go for about 789,000 pages... hey look...!!! Squirrel! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,669 #19 Posted December 14, 2024 4 hours ago, D_Mac said: If it's a show that's suppose to be informative then it should be correct on what it's saying. It's saying it's rare because of limited production and it was the only model with 10hp on short frame. Don't try and over sell it. Sure it's a great looking Wheel Horse but that dosnt make it rare. All of mine were only produced one year only. 875, 1075, and 856. In 1967 they stopped producing the 856 and started calling it the 857. That's so rare ! Come on. If the show is previewing any make or model tractor, red, green, blue, or yellow it should be ture on how it is represented. Fake News. I see your point and agree that things nowadays are often stretched one way or the other to benefit the person(s) portraying displaying relaying etc... I do however have to respectfully remind you and all of us that it's important to remember that there ARE models that were made in far less quantity than others. 1986 420LSE 1988,89 520-8 1974 C160-8 OHV Tecumseh engine tractors Another well known long time common knowledge example of low production number Horses is the 1045. Were they only made for three months? I dunno. Were there only 200 to 300 made? I dunno. Why do several of us know of (or even own) a 1045 thereby indicating a logical thought that maybe they AREN'T that rare? Well....... this IS a Wheelhorse tractor site ....right??!!?? So of course more of us would be directly or indirectly exposed to the knowledge of existence of more of a given model. Just because the Pond Family had a bread n butter tractor like the 856, 857, etc that was VERY common and sold well doesn't mean they also didn't have rare models ... even back in the 60s. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,724 #20 Posted December 14, 2024 3 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Were there only 200 to 300 made? I dunno. Personally I question some of the numbers on certain models. Especially the 520-8. Even down here in the south, they are always around. Heck, I have one myself. Sadly it was so rotted out that parts were all it was good for. It sat in an open field for about 10 years before I found it. Clearly some models made up the bulk of production through the years. Think C-120 and classic 312 models. They made thousands of them. Same for 520-H across many years. The 1045 does seem a little more rare I guess. Evolutionists might say it was a transitional model… 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_Mac 8,851 #21 Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) I'm not arguing on whether the tractor is rare or isn't. It just bothers me that the facts he says that makes it rare are not true. The guy himself says he goes to Wheel Horse shows where people flock to see it. No other 1965 10hp short frames at those shows? Like I said it's a great tractor. I enjoy seeing it. What I don't like is that now I know to watch Classic Tractor Fever with the sound off. Sad because it's supposed to be informative. Hey I have this rare original paint Mercedes. Only one that came from the factory in Wheel Horse red. It's a hit at MB shows. Next on Classic Car Fever. Edited December 14, 2024 by D_Mac 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,669 #22 Posted December 14, 2024 2 minutes ago, D_Mac said: What I don't like is that now I know to watch Classic Tractor Fever with the sound off. I have to admit I've been doing that for a looooong time. 2 minutes ago, D_Mac said: Hey I have this rare original paint Mercedes. Only one that came from the factory in Wheel Horse red. It's a hit at MB shows NOW THAT'S RARE!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,669 #23 Posted December 14, 2024 4 minutes ago, kpinnc said: Evolutionists might say it was a transitional model… Me being that I'd agree. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,055 #24 Posted December 15, 2024 6 hours ago, SylvanLakeWH said: your post should go for about 789,000 pages.. The way this thread is going we may need to order a case or two of these! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,669 #25 Posted December 15, 2024 1 minute ago, 953 nut said: The way this thread is going we may need to order a case or two of these! Nahhh 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites