Newish 417-8 User W/ Transmission Problem

[Glenn_K 3]

Hello and thank you for accepting me to the forum.

 

I've been using this Wheel Horse for a couple years to clear snow, it runs like a tank but a transmission issue just developed over the last few days. The part shown in the below picture (the part is just inside the left rear wheel) has been overheating very badly and creating a burning smell. This seems to only happen when i'm driving the tractor; it doesn't happen if the tractor is not moving w the PTO engaged.

 

The transmission looks like it needs an oil change (the oil is milky looking). Could a transmission oil change be the solution or is the problem possibly something else? 

 

-- Glenn

 

tractor hot spot.HEIC

[Glenn_K 3]

Inline picture of the overheating part 

 

 

 

 

 

[ri702bill 8,479]

Glenn - Welcome!!.

 

The oart shown is the brake assembly; the rotating drum and the fixed band. A mis-adjusted brake band will drag and create excess friction - and the burning smell.

[Ed Kennell 38,598]

to the As Bill said, the brake band probably needs adjusted or replaced.    The milky transmission fluid indicates it contains water and should be changed ASAP.      

Edited December 7 by Ed Kennell
wrong tranny

[oliver2-44 9,847]

 Be sure and change the transmission filter when you change the transmission oil.

If your brake lining is worn you can ge a new one here.

https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/brake-band-lining-wheel-horse/

From the looks of you brake I suspect the shaft seal behind it is leaking oil.

It can be replaced from the outside if needed.

 

yes an 8 Speed, so not filter.  My Bad

Edited December 8 by oliver2-44

[pfrederi 17,856]

Isn't this an 8 speed????

[Ed Kennell 38,598]

4 minutes ago, pfrederi said:

Isn't this an 8 speed????

Oops, My bad.      

[Brockport Bill 1,713]

milky tranny oil suggests either condensation inside or a bad shift handle boot and rain water getting in? Suggest you flush the tranny once first before you put in new oil - use kerosene or deisel for flush if its a gear tranny

[parsonsponyz 123]

I agree with the brake band and changing transmission oil.

[rmaynard 15,580]

Brake lining special - 

 

[Lee1977 6,774]

If the brake band is getting hot it is adjusted too tight need to be loosened up. It could need a new lining. The adjustment looser or tighter on the drum does not effect brakeing it only moves the placement of the brake pedal.

It should be adjusted so it's loose enough to not get hot and that the parking brake still works. Too tight the parking brake won't  lock in .

[oliver2-44 9,847]

When you drain the transmission oil jack the front of the tractor up as high as you safely can.

The transmission has a hun in thee bottom center of it that prevents it from draining fully.

[Glenn_K 3]

Thank you all for the warm welcome and for the information, as said, it was a brake issue -- the parking brake handle was stuck in a slightly engaged position and all that was needed was to unstick and then the tractor ran fine.

 

There a small engine fixit guy in the family who is going to help me change the transmission oil.

 

-- Glenn

Edited December 9 by Glenn_K

[SylvanLakeWH 25,890]

 

And 

[kpinnc 12,358]

7 hours ago, Glenn_K said:

There a small engine fixit guy in the family who is going to help me change the transmission oil.

It is a good idea to lift the front of the tractor (2-3 feet) to drain the tranny oil. There is a hump that traps dirty oil in the front of the tranny if you just drain it on flat ground. 
 

I just noticed @oliver2-44 beat me to the ”hump in the sump” explanation. 

Edited December 9 by kpinnc

[953 nut 55,734]

12 hours ago, Glenn_K said:

the parking brake handle was stuck in a slightly engaged position and all that was needed was to unstick and then the tractor ran fine

Glad it was a simple fix and you are back in the saddle again.