Clutch wear / replacement

[Canoetom85 21]

Hi all,

 

looking for some help regarding my clutch pad - can anyone tell me based off this picture if it needs replacing or should I just adjust Trunion more? Also if replacement is needed any suggestions on where to get one. I see amazon has some that match the original part number but no reviews on them. Thank you!

[oliver2-44 10,299]

From the picture there appears to be enough clutch surface. However I suggest you remove the hoop and slide the clutch off. Then you can make sure you’re not close to riding on the clutch brass rivets. It’s also an excellent opportunity to clean/wipe the inner bearing out with a very clean rag and regrease. Don’t put too much grease or it will sling it out onto the clutch.  If needed you can get a new quality clutch from Wheel Horse Parts and More. 

[Canoetom85 21]

Awesome thank you I wasn’t sure as the trunion adjustment was close to the end of the threaded area. Also any idea what this is for? Is there supposed to be something attached to this? (Circled in red)

 

 

[lynnmor 7,551]

The PTO brake bolts on there.

 

https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/110665-94-6652-brake-assembly-for-wheel-horse/

94-6652-Brake-Arm-Assembly-300x300.webp

[peter lena 9,074]

@Canoetom85   https://www.ebay.com/itm/283925877502   hitch pin clip  on pto cone drive is missing  !  the puter round swing arm is not connected to the cone driven section ! center hole shaft cone about 9 o clock , outside swing connection , should share that , hitch pin clip , hiding in plane site , those 2 horizontal holes are connected with the hitch pin clip , pete

[peter lena 9,074]

@Canoetom85  https://www.google.com/search?q=wheel+horse+clutch+pin+clip&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS866US866&oq=wheel+ho&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCAgAEEUYJxg7MggIABBFGCcYOzIGCAEQRRhAMgYIAhBFGDkyBggDEEUYQTIGCAQQRRhBMgYIBRBFGDwyBggGEEUYPDIGCAcQRRhBqAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#oshopproduct=pid:14044100982790593695,oid:14044100982790593695,iid:3972225061938499147,pvt:hg,pvo:3&oshop=apv&pvs=0  same clip type , front / side view , looking  right at ait , pete

[oldlineman 1,494]

yup you nailed it Peter,that missing pin is your problem when installed will give you more adjustment.

[ri702bill 8,933]

A LOT of folks ditch the brake pad - easier to service the PTO without it. And the airgap needs to be set each time it is re-installed - that is why the bracket is slotted.

[Ed Kennell 40,373]

2 hours ago, peter lena said:

 hitch pin clip  on pto cone drive is missing 

Yep. pete's eyes are still good.        Put that pin in and remove the brake bracket.    Readjust the trunnion tension.

[squonk 42,434]

 

 

[peter lena 9,074]

@Ed Kennell   @oldlineman  also added a light extension spring from round spring corner  to the lower  swing arm mount slide pin clip , that light pull , stops the bouncing / buzzing around , have that on my 3 units , quiet . pete

[oldlineman 1,494]

I also have that spring on mine

[peter lena 9,074]

@oldlineman  watch out on that admission  !  usually get a , you can't do that  , to any referred  improvement . like to tweak  anything  that I  detail  function on . usually a small  reference to solid  smooth linkage areas  . thanks for the shout , pete

[peter lena 9,074]

@ri702bill  have also long removed my clutch brake pad set up , thought the set up only increased the trouble spot , also since going over to a  550 deg flash point grease , in every  related movement point , including inner cone needle bearing , the movement / spin ease , is silent / smooth , if you looked at it , would not even notice the pad removal , but would notice the silent , rotational running ease . combine that with some , PTO LEVER  start detailing , like eliminating sloppy start point . next to battery tray , also added the dreaded , heim joint,  at lever end to clutch engagement point , no noise , no rust , just smooth quiet engagement . been road testing it for years now , with no issues , on 3  horses , pete  

[Lee1977 7,020]

There is one more thing to check while you in there. The short shaft in the end of the PTO pulley has a C-clip on the out side if it come out of the groove you won't be able to keep it adjusted.  There is another 

 inside C-clip but I've never had any trouble with it. I have had to replace that short shaft a couple of times in the last 47 years when they get worn to the point a C-clip won't stay in.

Don't know when they changed the PTO pads or what model you have, but the later ones are glued on you may not have rivets

Edited December 5, 2024 by Lee1977

[Lane Ranger 11,120]

On 12/4/2024 at 1:45 PM, peter lena said:

@Canoetom85   https://www.ebay.com/itm/283925877502   hitch pin clip  on pto cone drive is missing  !  the puter round swing arm is not connected to the cone driven section ! center hole shaft cone about 9 o clock , outside swing connection , should share that , hitch pin clip , hiding in plane site , those 2 horizontal holes are connected with the hitch pin clip , pete

 

 

 

Pete has a keen eye and is one of the Red Square guru's when it comes to maintaining a great running and operating tractor!

 

 

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