300/400 frame with mid 70s sheet metal?

[ebinmaine 67,766]

8 hours ago, Easton Rich said:

You would need square hood fender brackets with the rear gas tank because the 76 front tank was just a straight up and down bracket. Unless you want to make or modify one?

 

Somewhere around here I have a fender bracket from a 77 C160-8 speed.  I'm wondering if I used that bracket with the fender and tank from a 78 it'd be close. Then use spacers as needed like @Lee1977 suggests.

 

[Lee1977 6,682]

Extend the steering wheel shaft up, add larger tires on the 520 front axle and 25" on the rear and you will have a C-series twin to my 316-8.

Can't go much bigger then the 25" with the 300 frame you'll hit the rear bar

 

 

Edited Saturday at 12:54 PM by Lee1977

[Lee1977 6,682]

Here is a couple more pictures of the 316.

Iused a couple of pieces of 2" channel ( use what you have ) a couple of pieces of 3/4" pipe will workI have a little trouble reaching the clutct, your tall enough it may be an improvement.

 

Edited Saturday at 01:59 PM by Lee1977

[ebinmaine 67,766]

On 11/28/2024 at 6:51 PM, 953 nut said:

 

Here's a few of the possibilities...

 

 

518 frame from @Handy Don

 

 

 

312-8 parts rig from @PWL216

 

 

'78 C141 Automatic parts rig also from @PWL216

 

 

[Bar Nuthin 278]

4 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

'78 C141 Automatic parts rig also from @PWL216

 

 

 

I would say the saddle tank is a "must have"

[kpinnc 12,174]

On 11/28/2024 at 10:37 AM, ebinmaine said:

Fuel tank under the seat like the later models. 

Just curious Eb, what will go in the spot for the fuel tank on the C-series tower?

 

Not questioning your idea at all. Just wondering what the need for the tank under the seat is. If you stick with the 8-speed, you’ll have to chop the rear of the tunnel off that bolts down to the tranny. Or possibly use a tower setup from a hydro that is already chopped off. 

[ebinmaine 67,766]

2 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

Just curious Eb, what will go in the spot for the fuel tank on the C-series tower?

 

Not questioning your idea at all. Just wondering what the need for the tank under the seat is. If you stick with the 8-speed, you’ll have to chop the rear of the tunnel off that bolts down to the tranny. Or possibly use a tower setup from a hydro that is already chopped off. 

 

 

The ideas I'm tossing around are for the future build/rebuild/ restoration of the Wally Digger Backhoe as a whole. 

@wallfish John and I talked about it a bit back in September at @JCM Jim's Meet n Greet. 

The 300/400/500 chassis would be a direct bolt to bolt swap of the 1977 loader and John's awesome Backhoe. 

I have a personal preference for the sheet metal style of the 1977 and older tractors. 

Trina has a huge preference for them as well because the angled steering tower makes them easier to repair & maintain. 

 

The tilt forward seat of the 1976+  is a necessity for operation of the rear controlled Backhoe. 

I'd like to have the fuel tank in the back for several reasons. 

1. So I don't have to tilt the hood with the loader in the way. 

2. I already have a tilting seat so the rear tank would be convenient.  

3. Extra fuel capacity. 

 

 

@Handy Don reminded me yesterday that I already have a 518 frame which has the extra holes for the Gear Reduction Steering pieces. 

 

[kpinnc 12,174]

1 hour ago, ebinmaine said:

I'd like to have the fuel tank in the back for several reasons. 

1. So I don't have to tilt the hood with the loader in the way. 

2. I already have a tilting seat so the rear tank would be convenient.  

3. Extra fuel capacity. 

Ok, I understand now. Again I wasn’t questioning your reasons, just trying to follow along. I look forward to the build! 

[ebinmaine 67,766]

32 minutes ago, kpinnc said:

Ok, I understand now. Again I wasn’t questioning your reasons, just trying to follow along.

 

Oh no worries.  I didn't figure.  

[Thor27 773]

As far as the magnum with the early sheetmetal, it will all be fine except the muffler. This is a 91 312h.

[kpinnc 12,174]

4 hours ago, Thor27 said:

As far as the magnum with the early sheetmetal, it will all be fine except the muffler.

There ya go. Easy to extend it and the brace out about an inch. Longer pipe nipple and a spacer for the brace. 

Edited Sunday at 05:39 AM by kpinnc

[Thor27 773]

@kpinnc Brilliant, that would certainly work.

[kpinnc 12,174]

56 minutes ago, Thor27 said:

Brilliant, that would certainly work

Did this on my Bronco. 
 

[ebinmaine 67,766]

@Thor27 & @kpinnc. 

That muffler issue can be solved with a fairly easy swap to a Gravely Style muffler too. 

I have 2 here that are facing down and forward. That keeps most of the fumes from the driver.  

 

 

[mrc 818]

a stack is another option

[ebinmaine 67,766]

32 minutes ago, mrc said:

a stack is another option

 

And an excellent one!

[Pullstart 62,945]

Like @Thor27 and @kpinnc I enjoyed that style muffler as well on Stormy the 1056.

 

That was one tractor I could always trust to get chores done, but haven’ much missed it like I figured I would.

[Easton Rich 307]

You might be able to modify a twin kolher muffler?

[ebinmaine 67,766]

31 minutes ago, Easton Rich said:

You might be able to modify a twin kolher muffler?

 

Likely could but it's just as easy to install a Gravely Style muffler 

[Easton Rich 307]

True

[Retired Wrencher 5,469]

Eric what s the main intent of this build. Just because of the Magnum engine? A.Heavy duty wood haler? 

[ebinmaine 67,766]

31 minutes ago, Retired Wrencher said:

Eric what s the main intent of this build. Just because of the Magnum engine? A.Heavy duty wood haler? 

 

 

Gary scroll on up to post #32. 

 

 

[Retired Wrencher 5,469]

On 11/30/2024 at 4:09 PM, ebinmaine said:

 

 

The ideas I'm tossing around are for the future build/rebuild/ restoration of the Wally Digger Backhoe as a whole. 

@wallfish John and I talked about it a bit back in September at @JCM Jim's Meet n Greet. 

The 300/400/500 chassis would be a direct bolt to bolt swap of the 1977 loader and John's awesome Backhoe. 

I have a personal preference for the sheet metal style of the 1977 and older tractors. 

Trina has a huge preference for them as well because the angled steering tower makes them easier to repair & maintain. 

 

The tilt forward seat of the 1976+  is a necessity for operation of the rear controlled Backhoe. 

I'd like to have the fuel tank in the back for several reasons. 

1. So I don't have to tilt the hood with the loader in the way. 

2. I already have a tilting seat so the rear tank would be convenient.  

3. Extra fuel capacity. 

 

 

@Handy Don reminded me yesterday that I already have a 518 frame which has the extra holes for the Gear Reduction Steering pieces. 

 

Ok Eric. I see now. I hope it turns ok good for you. Nothing like a thought or an idea turned in to real time project.