Working on 1800's barn

[ebinmaine 70,395]

The Local Used Wood Hoarder...

AKA BBT ...

Would be very happy with you re-using type folk. 

She'll save a half a scrap for future use multiple times!!

[AlexR 1,208]

Got a couple hours on the barn again the concrete is thicker then I thought in some of these area's, it's 4" in a decent section. Which is also making it harder to bust up and of course is more concrete to move. 

I probably only got maybe a 1/10 of it done so it's gonna be a good 20 hours of work on the concrete. 

 

 

 

[Handy Don 13,267]

That is hard work! Be thankful the pourers didn’t but in any mesh reinforcement!

Might behoove you to rent an electric jack hammer for half a day. Do all the busting up and then do the pickup as you have time.

Edited January 30 by Handy Don

[ebinmaine 70,395]

26 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

rent an electric jack hammer for half a day

 

[AlexR 1,208]

28 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

That is hard work! Be thankful the pourers didn’t but in any mesh reinforcement!

Might behoove you to rent an electric jack hammer for half a day. Do all the busting up and then do the pickup as you have time.

Definitely thankful for that! or rebar. 

Yeah I might need to get a jackhammer, I think I will see how one more day goes with the old sledgehammer. I also thought about using a grinder and cutting across to create some break lines. 

Even hitting the concrete with the sledge makes me nervous haha, that is a ton of weight on the beams below. As you can probably tell from the pictures it's about 4 inches of sag in the middle where all the concrete is. 

Edited January 30 by AlexR

[rjg854 11,866]

@AlexR  I hope you have a place for all that hard fill.  Or you might know of someone who does.

[AlexR 1,208]

3 hours ago, rjg854 said:

@AlexR  I hope you have a place for all that hard fill.  Or you might know of someone who does.

Right now I am dumping it on a concrete pad I have. And eventually I will borrow or rent a dump trailer and I can use a skidsteer to load that up, and take it to one of many gravel places around me. Most of them will take clean concrete for free.

[ebinmaine 70,395]

6 minutes ago, AlexR said:

Right now I am dumping it on a concrete pad I have. And eventually I will borrow or rent a dump trailer and I can use a skidsteer to load that up, and take it to one of many gravel places around me. Most of them will take clean concrete for free.

 

Makes good fill

[Handy Don 13,267]

17 hours ago, AlexR said:

also thought about using a grinder and cutting across to create some break lines. 

This method is useful when you need to control the extent of the breaking up. Power concrete cutters need water to keep the blade cool and I suspect that water and the underlying wood supports would not get along in your situation. 

[AlexR 1,208]

30 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

This method is useful when you need to control the extent of the breaking up. Power concrete cutters need water to keep the blade cool and I suspect that water and the underlying wood supports would not get along in your situation. 

I have some experience in cutting concrete mainly pavers and the water is actually not typically for keeping the blade cool except for extended cutting without breaks. (In my application I never had problems with hot blades or less life on the blade cutting dry vs wet)

It's actually for dust control the silica dust from cutting concrete is pretty bad to breathe in, makes new concrete in your lungs haha.

You can wear masks cutting dry, but cutting wet is preferred to keep dust down and bystanders or other workers not breathing it in as well. 

 

I will just wear a mask using the grinder, as not to concerned with dust it's already everywhere. And nobody else is around. 

Edited January 31 by AlexR

[AlexR 1,208]

16 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

 

Makes good fill

 

It definitely does make good fill, I just don't have any need for fill, and I checked with my one neighbor to see if maybe he did and he didn't either. 

[AlexR 1,208]

Got about 3 hours on it today and actually made good progress tried the grinder and it kinda worked it just wasn't going to be fast enough. 

So I went back to using the good ole sledge hammer. I would say I got a little more then 1/4 of it done.

The issue with renting a jackhammer is I can't really just bust it all up and go back to pick it up as the wood floor underneath is barely hanging on and I don't trust stepping on anything but the concrete or where the beams are. 

 

 

My trailer is getting a bit beat up. Going to have to replace that rear angle piece with a way heavier duty angle iron. I don't have a tailgate for it, so whatever on those guides haha. 

 

My concrete pile is growing.

 

 

[AlexR 1,208]

Got little more done today, didn't work as long. Concrete pile is getting pretty big.

 

 

Realized I will have to take these boards down as it's a "wall" of sorts that is sitting on the concrete. So I will have to do that before starting on the concrete again. 

[Handy Don 13,267]

2 hours ago, AlexR said:

I can see why you are suspicious of the wood “subfloor”. 

Me, having become more injury averse in my dotage, would probably put some temporary supports underneath sections of that floor where I’m pounding away!

[AlexR 1,208]

25 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

I can see why you are suspicious of the wood “subfloor”. 

Me, having become more injury averse in my dotage, would probably put some temporary supports underneath sections of that floor where I’m pounding away!

 

Yeah I have no doubt on half of that floor, if I directly stepped on it. I would fall through.

 

Good news is once I get everything done, and the new floor in. I know it can handle a ton of wheelhorse's... I mean weight haha

[adsm08 2,573]

Just now, AlexR said:

 

Yeah I have no doubt on half of that floor, if I directly stepped on it. I would fall through.

 

Good news is once I get everything done, and the new floor in. I know it can handle a ton of wheelhorse's... I mean weight haha

 

A ton of WHs is probably not that many. Certainly less than 20.

[AlexR 1,208]

1 minute ago, adsm08 said:

A ton of WHs is probably not that many. Certainly less than 20.

Well that's certainly not enough. I did mean a ton as in number not weight, darn English language. If I had to venture a guess on the weight of the concrete what I have taken out and what is left, I'm gonna say 10 tons. 

[953 nut 57,586]

12 hours ago, AlexR said:

I did mean a ton as in number not weight, darn English language.

A figure of speech verses a literal interpretation will get you every time.               

12 hours ago, adsm08 said:

 

A ton of WHs is probably not that many. Certainly less than 20.

At about 500 pounds each that would only be four, not even a decent start of a herd.          

[AlexR 1,208]

Got the wall down and in the burn pile, I am not working Monday. So I will try to get the rest of the concrete out, bit of a tall order..... We'll see if that happens haha. 

 

 

 

[tunahead72 2,515]

58 minutes ago, AlexR said:

Got the wall down and in the burn pile ... 

 

 

You clearly seem to know what you're doing, so I'm not questioning your methods, but those wall boards look pretty good to me from 600+ miles away, are you sure you want to get rid of them?  Do you know why that wall was there in the first place?

 

[AlexR 1,208]

3 minutes ago, tunahead72 said:

 

You clearly seem to know what you're doing, so I'm not questioning your methods, but those wall boards look pretty good to me from 600+ miles away, are you sure you want to get rid of them?  Do you know why that wall was there in the first place?

 

I understand what you mean, and no I didn't necessarily want to get rid of them. It was more a matter of time and a place to put them. I didn't want to take the time to remove nails, and the place I would be storing all this wood is in the barn.

I have already removed some of it to put on the back of the peninsula in my kitchen and it also takes extra time removing it without destroying the tongue and grooves. 

So since it was just pine boards I decided to save time and space and just toss them. 

 

The wall was there because they were using it as a corn crib. (That is the story I got) Not sure where the wall on the other side went, since I assume they would have had to pile it in the corner. 

[AlexR 1,208]

I accomplished my goal! At what cost I don't know yet, my back will tell me tomorrow haha.

 

So yes all of the concrete is out now!! 

Don't let the floor fool you it is all rotten. 

 

 

The giant pile of concrete. After looking at it, and not wanting to move it again. I think I may hire someone to grind it up to use as gravel.

 

 

Next thing to do is get this beam under the floor beams.

 

 

 

And I found another license plate this time 1940

[953 nut 57,586]

1 hour ago, AlexR said:

I found another license plate this time 1940

Somewhere there is a 1940 Rat Rod that would be a prefect home for that.      

[AlexR 1,208]

Got another couple hours in on the barn today.

Getting pretty good at getting beams in myself.

And man it lifted it all up quite a bit even lifted one of the beams out of the notch on the sidewall beam. 

I am not yet done with the whole splice thing there are some spax 1/4" 8" long lags in there with the strapping too. I will add a couple boards across the whole splice to sandwich it all together

 

 

 

You can see by how much the bolts are sticking up how much the beams came up. 

 

This is the beam that lifted out of the notch. 

 

All this floor decking lifted up too. 

 

Floor is looking a lot more level, there will be some shimming to do I am sure. 

 

[SylvanLakeWH 27,249]

Wow!