Brockport Bill 1,677 #1 Posted November 12 is there a document or database resource somewhere that provides the kt 17 engine serial number info -- i have a C175, Series 1, KT 17 with a engine Serial number 12170338 --- just wondering if there is info somewhere of its production date and other spec history? The other part of the decal is missing -- it only shows the Serial number ? i wanted to cross reference Serial # to determaine if its a 24200, 24223, etc? i believe based on tractor # 01-17KE03 the engine is a 24223 -- but that assumes it is original factory engine still in tractor --- or may not be and could be a replacement engine so that's why i wanted to check the engine serial # itself? thanks, Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,078 #2 Posted November 12 Kohler made serial 121xxxxx in 1982. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,502 #3 Posted November 13 KT-17 with serial nimber 24300 and higher are Series 2, 24299 and lower are Series 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 1,677 #4 Posted November 13 2 hours ago, 953 nut said: KT-17 with serial nimber 24300 and higher are Series 2, 24299 and lower are Series 1. thanks --- because the engine number is missing is why i wanted to cross reference with the engine serial number that is still on engine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,783 #5 Posted November 13 (edited) 15 hours ago, 953 nut said: KT-17 with serial nimber 24300 and higher are Series 2, 24299 and lower are Series 1. I think you mean Spec # not serial #.. Kohler Produced 5 spec number KT17 Series 1 for Wheel horse. 24125 24147 24171 24200 24223 I assume because of the failure rate WH ordered a Series 2 as service replacement engines. Guess they got them so the dealers could try to please angry customers. The engines are painted gray. EDIT: Kohler produced 5 Series 2 spec# for WH 24323 24336 24340 (1985 417-8) 24350 (1985 417-A) 24363 (1986 417-8 and A) I assume the first two spec numbers were service engines... I have one i will look later to see what spec number it is she is asleep for the winter. EDIT 2 The Gray series 2 service engine I have is 24336 Edited November 13 by pfrederi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 1,677 #6 Posted November 13 5 hours ago, pfrederi said: I think you mean Spec # not serial #.. Kohler Produced 5 spec number KT17 Series 1 for Wheel horse. 24125 24147 24171 24200 24223 I assume because of the failure rate WH ordered a Series 2 as service replacement engines. Guess they got them so the dealers could try to please angry customers. The engines are painted gray. EDIT: Kohler produced 5 Series 2 spec# for WH 24323 24336 24340 (1985 417-8) 24350 (1985 417-A) 24363 (1986 417-8 and A) I assume the first two spec numbers were service engines... I have one i will look later to see what spec number it is she is asleep for the winter. EDIT 2 The Gray series 2 service engine I have is 24336 PETE --- i have two C175s --- one is a 1983 Tractor Series 1 black engine that i was asking about -- i believe based on tractor # 01-17KE03 the engine is a spec 24223 --- however, because the engine decal is partially gone i only have the engine SERIAL NUMBER - SEE PHOTO - therefore i wanted to use the engine SERIAL # to cross reference to confirm the SPEC # is in fact 24223 -- i could assume the SPEC is 24223 because that's the spec that corresponds to the tractor i.d. but since there is no way to confirm the engine was not swapped into this tractor i instead wanted to use the SERIAL number to confirm its SPEC ? I hope i am clearer now????????????? As an added note my second C175 is 1984 model and is a gray engine thanks for all the help Bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,783 #7 Posted November 13 As indicated before serial 12170338 was produced in 1982 way before Series 2. Beyond that I d not know of any sure fire way to match serial # to Spec # and I doubt that there are any serious differences between the various WH series 1 spec numbers.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,783 #8 Posted November 13 WH may have used a previous year engine in early 1983 production which might be the 24200 spec. Quick glance at variations shows different air intake and shrouds. Does your engine have a tear drop shape air cleaner or a round one with a snout??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 1,677 #9 Posted November 14 3 hours ago, pfrederi said: WH may have used a previous year engine in early 1983 production which might be the 24200 spec. Quick glance at variations shows different air intake and shrouds. Does your engine have a tear drop shape air cleaner or a round one with a snout??? --- i noticed my engine number did start as 82 production even tho tractor is 83 - - so i assumed it was just a holdover black '82 S1 engine installed in an 83 tractor ?? my engine is round breather with seasonal adjustable snout -- i have noticed over the yrs that the tear drop breathers appear on the earlier c175s from 80 maybe 81? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,783 #10 Posted November 14 I would guess you have a 24223. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brockport Bill 1,677 #11 Posted November 14 3 minutes ago, pfrederi said: I would guess you have a 24223. agreed !!! thats the assumption i have been going on - - always trying to learn more info about the horses tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites