Alrashid2 171 #1 Posted November 11 (edited) Hey guys. All 4 of my newly acquired Wheel Horse 312-8's tires are dry rotted and cracked, but have near perfect tread. The fronts are definitely tubeless, and losing air, so going to get tubes put into them. The rears, however, I'm not so sure of. They aren't losing air, but I'd like to put tubes in them at the same time just for peace of mind. However, if they already have tubes in them, no point right? Can anyone help me figure out if they are Tubed or Tubeless? Attached some photos. They're Carlisle 22x7.50-12 tires, don't say "Tubeless" anywhere on them. However, the valve stem shape made me think they were tubeless but I'm not quite sure... Tried deflating one and poking in but I just can't get a good look and didn't want to risk ripping the tire. Thanks for the advice all! I'm real thankful for this place Edited November 11 by Alrashid2 Photos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,766 #2 Posted November 11 That last photo would lead me to believe that you have a tubeless tire there. You can't see the hole that the stem should be going through. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alrashid2 171 #3 Posted November 11 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: That last photo would lead me to believe that you have a tubeless tire there. You can't see the hole that the stem should be going through. Thanks for replying. Ya, that is what I was thinking too... The fact that the valve stem is pretty wide. But I wasn't sure and googling is not helping me find anything at all. Seems wild they're still holding air if tubeless! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,743 #4 Posted November 11 Fat rubber around the hole tubless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alrashid2 171 #5 Posted November 11 Thanks for confirming. Guess I better take all 4 wheels to my local guy to get tubes put in... thanks guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,387 #6 Posted November 11 A caution on tubes that come from an "offshore" supplier. Be prepared to be disappointed. Regardless of its origin, I inflate the tube by itself at least 3 days before I plan to use it. Do not destroy the packaging - good chance you will need to return it..... The larger rear tires are not so bad to fish a tube into... the smaller 6" fronts are a true PITA. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alrashid2 171 #7 Posted November 11 Thanks for the advice. My local shop seems to use quality parts and their price on their tubes reflected that - double what I saw on amazon and ebay, so thinking they should be good. We'll see. Thanks again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,393 #8 Posted November 11 If they're not leaking air, l feel it would be better to leave them alone. Putting stress on the sidewalls taking them on and off may cause more harm to the tires. Leave well enough alone. That's my 2 cents. 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,766 #9 Posted November 12 2 hours ago, rjg854 said: If they're not leaking air, l feel it would be better to leave them alone. Putting stress on the sidewalls taking them on and off may cause more harm to the tires. Leave well enough alone. That's my 2 cents. Seconded. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,387 #10 Posted November 12 But - if they do not hold air - nothing ventured, nothing gained... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,469 #11 Posted November 12 20 hours ago, Alrashid2 said: Thanks for replying. Ya, that is what I was thinking too... The fact that the valve stem is pretty wide. But I wasn't sure and googling is not helping me find anything at all. Seems wild they're still holding air if tubeless! @Alrashid2 Stick with us for any thing you need to know about Wheel Horse related. And 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,469 #12 Posted November 12 10 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Seconded. I third that. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravely Horse 16 #13 Posted November 12 For what it’s worth, I’ve used green slime in several yard equipment tires that have good tread, but dry rotting or puncture damage that would cause it to lose air. If you roll it around a lot to get full inside coverage, it works quite well. Mine have held air all season. In fact , the front tires on the 50” gravely deck attachment take like 50 psi, but are tiny. When I bought it, one wouldn’t hold air more than a day, and after the slime, it held all summer. Just a thought. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,618 #14 Posted November 12 Used some of that from dad's garage when we cleaned it out a few years back... on my garden utility trailer... cracked and wouldn't hold air... it was free so why not? Has held up with zero air loss... Hope i didn't just jinx myself... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alrashid2 171 #15 Posted November 12 Thanks guys, wish I had seen your responses before dropping off the tires yesterday! My guy seemed confident he could put tubes in them, and said I could pick up tomorrow. So we'll see! If they rip, then I'll just get new tires. I don't like waiting for things to break and rather be proactive, as my luck always seems to have things fail when I need them most! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alrashid2 171 #16 Posted November 13 Got my wheels back! He aired them up to 19 PSI but I dropped to 12 PSI as per the service manual. Here are the tubes he used. Tires are 15x6-6 and 22x7.5-12 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,766 #17 Posted November 13 1 minute ago, Alrashid2 said: the tubes he used Not Chinese. Decent brand. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alrashid2 171 #18 Posted November 13 Good to know! Only thing that concerned me is he used a 23" tube in a 22" tire. But I know the exact size is hard to find 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,766 #19 Posted November 13 14 minutes ago, Alrashid2 said: Good to know! Only thing that concerned me is he used a 23" tube in a 22" tire. But I know the exact size is hard to find Should be fine. Tubes are usually able to be used one size up or down. Maybe more. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alrashid2 171 #20 Posted November 13 Thank you @ebinmaine. More peace of mind from you boys. Appreciate you all! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
