Building a "beater" dozer rig... have a curiosity question

[Docwheelhorse 2,673]

Hello all, 

Bought this low hour GT1142 out of NY. It sat for a decade after quitting (tale goes it ran put of fuel). Guy I got it off off got it running and left it just the way you see it.

 

Plan is to do a rubdown with Penetrol...

 

Anyways I digress---the back tires kept going flat so I swapped on some "Gladiator" brand tires that where mounted on Craftsman late model GT rims. Got them off @Sparky thank you very much.

 

I had a Reese type hitch in stock with the old style plow brackets included that put plow just ahead of transaxle tubes---dont care only intention is dozing / brush pushing straight on.

 

BTW... if you have one of these "light duty" Reese hitch setups and noticed it flexes and bends real easy MOUNT IT UPSIDE DOWN the hitch box then makes contact with regular drawbar and its much stronger. Look at my pics... yes you will need to drill your drawbar / any accesories as they dont typically insert far enough for pin before they hit case--but thats easy.

 

Heres my curiosity--->

Went out to my parts pile and grabbed a plow frame that was missing the angle arm and the rod that goes to quadrant... again dont care.

 

Plow frame is longer than a short frame but shorter than a long frame---look where the angle bracket is under the right hand foot rest. Remember im using a plow mount that pushes plow forwards about 2". 

 

48" blade is beat to heck... it also came off my parts pile. But pre-wrecked is perfect for when your going dozing.

 

Did WH make a "mid size" plow frame for B's or am I cuckoo for cocoa puffs?

 

Thanks for reading my "book"

 

Tony

 

 

 

 

[ebinmaine 67,869]

My understanding of Wheelhorse plow frames is:

If the whole plow frame is a triangle shape it's a Short frame. 

If the rear part of the frame has a portion that's parallel,  then goes triangular,  it's a Long frame. 

 

To the best of my knowledge the Mid frame 1974 and 1975 B series tractors were intended to use a Long frame. 

 

Is any portion of your plow frame parallel? 

 

@953 nut

Was there a different size of Short frames built for the 953/1054?

[Handy Don 12,324]

My read on plow frames is this:

- Triangles (i.e. the rails do not bend between the front pivot and the axle mount) though there were some variants in how these attached and how the angle control locked and worked) -- Short frame tractors

- Parallel (i.e. the rails bend to be parallel at the rear end) and again, variants on angle lock control - Long frame tractors (except swept axle 520’s)

- Parallel+ (i.e. the rails bend to parallel and there is extra length at the rear) - swept axle 520s

 

There were no short frame Work Horse tractors.

You have a short frame plow frame -- straight rails all the way. Likely the when the blade is angled it touches a front tire. As well, the base for the angling lever is too far back and blocked by the footrest. But, if you are only straight dozing, maybe the beater works for you. 

Edited November 7 by Handy Don

[Ed Kennell 38,361]

Yep, I've only seen short frames, long frames, and long frame extensions for the 520 FSA.

[EB-80/8inPA 1,659]

I can’t add anything to the plow discussion not already said, but I think the Penetrol is a fine idea and will have that machine back to showroom condition in no time.  It’ll be too nice to use aa a dozer at that point, so your plow problem will be solved automatically!

[Racinbob 11,117]

Make sure you post 'after' pictures when you do the Penetrol thing. I'm curious. 

[Lee1977 6,691]

There only a 2" difference in wheel base between the mid and long frame. So it's not likely that Wheel Horse made a special snow plow frame for it.

That tractor looks good. Faided paint and surface rust, we've see a lot worse.

[Handy Don 12,324]

1 minute ago, Lee1977 said:

There only a 2" difference in wheel base between the mid and long frame. So it's not likely that Wheel Horse made a special snow plow frame for it.

That tractor looks good. Faided paint and surface rust, we've see a lot worse.

Agreed.

The reason for the extended plow frame for the swept axle tractors is that the wheelbase is 2” longer and the front track is 4” wider. Combined, that causes the forward outer edge of the front tires to hit an angled blade with the standard “long frame” plow frame. 

[Docwheelhorse 2,673]

Hello All, thanks fo rthe replies... I will post after Penetrol pics when I get the chance and I guess I have a short frame even though to me it looks too long... 

 

Tony

[ebinmaine 67,869]

19 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said:

and I guess I have a short frame even though to me it looks too long... 

How so?

You talking the distance from a certain point to another? 

[Racinbob 11,117]

36 minutes ago, Docwheelhorse said:

Hello All, thanks fo rthe replies... I will post after Penetrol pics when I get the chance and I guess I have a short frame even though to me it looks too long... 

 

Tony

 

The GT 1142 is a long frame. 

[Ed Kennell 38,361]

And that's why you can't angle the blade.  When you put a short plow frame on a long frame tractor the blade hits the tires when the blade is angled.

[EB-80/8inPA 1,659]

4 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

and I guess I have a short frame even though to me it looks too long.

I had a thing that looked long enough but turned out it was too short.  Don’t ask!

[rjg854 11,396]

15 hours ago, EB-80/8inPA said:

I had a thing that looked long enough but turned out it was too short.  Don’t ask!

that sounds like a personal problem