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jtrosp1980

I have 3 raiders all high low transmission I can not figure out I have wheelhorses drive belt 7473  how to get belt to operate right for the transmission I'm smoking a belt took it back off I bent the pulley guide with no success any help would be appreciated 

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Ed Kennell

Pictures would help. Could it be a weak clutch spring?

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jtrosp1980

Changed clutch spring pictures included 

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ri702bill

Are you using the Belt Guard installed correctly for each??

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Ed Kennell

If the belt guard on the idler pulley is the adjustable type (not welded) ,try rotating it CCW so it is right at the contact point of the belt on the pulley.  The guard may be contacting the belt before the belt is disengaged.

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Ed Kennell

The video on page two of this post may help.

 

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953 nut
11 hours ago, jtrosp1980 said:

I'm smoking a belt

Please define "Smoking the Belt"           

11 hours ago, jtrosp1980 said:

3 raiders

Is this a problem on all three or just this one Raider?    Is the drive pulley on the engine pictured the same size as the other two Raiders? is the top cross section width on all three belts 21/32"?  Some aftermarket belts being sold under the Wheel Horse number are nearly 1/8" wider making then ride higher in the pulley which results in them being effectively shorter.

2 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

If the belt guard on the idler pulley is the adjustable type (not welded) ,try rotating it CCW so it is right at the contact point of the belt on the pulley.  The guard may be contacting the belt before the belt is disengaged.

Like Ed was saying, with the clutch down the belt tab should slightly contact the belt as in the first picture, with the clutch released it should not touch as in picture two.

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jtrosp1980

It is welded the top of belt got chewed the belt won't stop to put in a gear 

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953 nut
2 minutes ago, jtrosp1980 said:

belt won't stop to put in a gear

The belt guard MUST be in place to catch the slack from the belt when the clutch is depressed.

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jtrosp1980

Belt guide was on same issue 

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953 nut
1 hour ago, 953 nut said:

Is this a problem on all three or just this one Raider?    Is the drive pulley on the engine pictured the same size as the other two Raiders? is the top cross section width on all three belts 21/32"?  Some aftermarket belts being sold under the Wheel Horse number are nearly 1/8" wider making then ride higher in the pulley which results in them being effectively shorter

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jtrosp1980

Yes

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Ed Kennell

Is there any sign of a missing tab on the belt guard that would be in the same location as the one shown in my video?

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953 nut
5 hours ago, jtrosp1980 said:

Yes

YES what? we asked several questions.

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jtrosp1980

Sorry the yes I am having the same issue with all 3i figured of I get one then I'm doing better than I was

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jtrosp1980

No the tab is on the side on the belt guide we're the step goes the belt I bought from a wheelhorses place many many years ago it was a original wheel horse drive belt I straightened the tab it helped some I can now get it in gear still has some squeak and little rub burn but better than it was I adjusted the petal and shortened the spring for the petal 

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jtrosp1980

I'm now trying to get the rod out for the hitch that is being a pain in the ass to get out and I have the fun of getting two out

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jtrosp1980

Thank you for all the help I really appreciate it 

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Ed Kennell
10 hours ago, jtrosp1980 said:

I'm now trying to get the rod out for the hitch that is being a pain in the ass to get out and I have the fun of getting two out

There are many threads on here detailing some of the methods used.

https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/search/?&q=" hitch pins"&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancyd.

 

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jtrosp1980

Well my clutch worked for a little bit now it's grinding putting it in gear I can still smell the belt burning tried a new belt same issue I have to go back to work for a few weeks anymore ideas

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