RetroMower 349 #1 Posted September 29 I've always wanted a Panzer tractor of the T70 variety but secretly would rather the larger Copar versions that came in 3 and 4 wheel options but were always too expensive. Well I found one that's affordable and wouldn't feel bad resto modding. This has been Frankensteind with a homemade front suspension that looks as if it would easily be removed. After looking at it I can tell the front axel is unlike any other example I could find online. It almost looks like a Ford Model A front axle. Maybe it's a super rare option. I don't know so that's why I'm asking. I don't know much about these and I'd love to hear opinions before I jump on it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,078 #2 Posted September 29 The beauty of the garden tractor hobby is it's a lot less expensive than hot rods and muscle cars. For $250 you can't really "loose your shirt". At minimum it's $250 to learn everything you need to know about Copar Panzer tractors and that's a much better deal than learning you picked the wrong college major at $60-$80K x 4 years. I'd rather buy a $250 Panzer than owe $32K in student loans for a Creative Writing college degree any day. LOL Finding an original front axle might be a challenge but hunting down stuff is most of the fun anyway IMO. I'm no Panzer expert but lots of changes and mods to that front end went on. What and why? Ask the owner. Just 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RetroMower 349 #3 Posted September 29 (edited) 3 hours ago, wallfish said: The beauty of the garden tractor hobby is it's a lot less expensive than hot rods and muscle cars. For $250 you can't really "loose your shirt". At minimum it's $250 to learn everything you need to know about Copar Panzer tractors and that's a much better deal than learning you picked the wrong college major at $60-$80K x 4 years. I'd rather buy a $250 Panzer than owe $32K in student loans for a Creative Writing college degree any day. LOL Finding an original front axle might be a challenge but hunting down stuff is most of the fun anyway IMO. I'm no Panzer expert but lots of changes and mods to that front end went on. What and why? Ask the owner. Just Oh I agree completely. One of the first things I made "mine" was a 69 AC B112 when i was 16. I'm 45 now. The bevel gearbox was shot but I managed to find one. After I had it completely apart and painted I made a snowplow that was lifted with an air cylinder supplied by an emglow air tank and controlled with a treadle valve off an old semi that was donated from one of the first places I worked. It worked extremely well and I was proud of it. As far as the above panzer is concerned I'll likely buy it if the rear isn't locked up. I was just hoping for some input if anyone ever saw this type of front axle. Edited September 29 by RetroMower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Streetrodchev 801 #4 Posted September 29 That Panzer is definitely a project. The front axle is a previous owner modification. The missing jackshaft and missing pulleys may be difficult to find, might be best off making your own drivetrain for it. I have a T102 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Streetrodchev 801 #5 Posted September 29 http://www.panzertractors.com/ModelIDHistory.html some good information in here, do some searching under the different tabs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RetroMower 349 #6 Posted September 29 3 hours ago, Streetrodchev said: That Panzer is definitely a project. The front axle is a previous owner modification. The missing jackshaft and missing pulleys may be difficult to find, might be best off making your own drivetrain for it. I have a T102 If I had to guess the one I'm looking at may have been a T102 like yours and converted to a 4 wheel with whatever he used as a front axle. As for the drive train I had no intent to return it to original as I can imagine spending more on the appropriate parts than the $250 for the tractor. I'd love to power it with a Kohler or Briggs v-twin or on the far end of the extreme scale a Wisconsin 4 cylinder. Guy says the brakes work and it rolls freely so I just have to decide if I want to make the 4 hr round trip to get it 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 63,080 #7 Posted September 30 3 hours ago, RetroMower said: so I just have to decide if I want to make the 4 hr round trip to get it I’ll help here. Just because I’m that nice a fella. Yes. Yes you do want to go for the 4 hour round trip to get it! That was easy. You’re welcome. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 49,131 #8 Posted September 30 17 minutes ago, Pullstart said: Just because I’m that nice a fella Well I just fell off my bar stool... 7 hours ago, Streetrodchev said: I have a T102 Why do you insist on dragging that green crap to shows Jeffery when you have a Panzer like that and a nice ??? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Streetrodchev 801 #9 Posted September 30 19 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Why do you insist on dragging that green crap to shows Jeffery when you have a Panzer like that and a nice ??? 🤣 I don’t bring the green ones to all the shows, just the ones that we can play in the dirt. They out work all my others. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keaton 451 #10 Posted September 30 @RetroMower you don't got much to loose if you got it or not, no engine, if you want to mod it a bit, stick a v-twin it it, don't know how you like to do stuff but that would be neat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
