Jason X 19 #1 Posted September 21 (edited) A part fell off my 72 Raider 10-8 today and I found out the hard way that it was the band that goes around the clutch wheel. It's the brake. I went for a surprising downhill slalom but I'm OK. Anyone know where I can get one? Edited September 21 by Jason X 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,471 #2 Posted September 21 AZ Tractor, just give them a call for the best results. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,890 #3 Posted September 21 But... 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,205 #4 Posted September 21 10 minutes ago, Jason X said: A part fell off my 72 Raider 10-8 today and I found out the hard way that it was the band that goes around the clutch wheel. It's the brake. I went for a surprising downhill slalom but I'm OK. Anyone know where I can get one? Is the metal part broken? Or did the brake shoe come off the inside? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,479 #5 Posted September 21 (edited) Yup - you just done got yo'self the WH "Ride of Courage" merit badge... and lived to tell the story........ Welcome to the Club..... Edited September 23 by ri702bill 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpinnc 12,358 #6 Posted September 22 3 hours ago, Jason X said: I went for a surprising downhill slalom but I'm OK. Having done something similar myself, I would never laugh at you. …But I’ll say I will laugh with you. No brakes made my eyes get big on more than one occasion! I learned the hard way that just because you can pull a heavy trailer does not mean you can stop one! 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason X 19 #7 Posted September 22 It's the shoe I believe but I didn't have even a spare minute to pull the wheel and look. AZ tractor, got it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lagersolut 669 #8 Posted September 22 2 hours ago, kpinnc said: Having done something similar myself, I would never laugh at you. …But I’ll say I will laugh with you. No brakes made my eyes get big on more than one occasion! I learned the hard way that just because you can pull a heavy trailer does not mean you can stop one! I'm gonna 2nd this ^ even with AG tread fluid tires and wheel weights - no damage or injuries lesson learned 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,774 #9 Posted September 22 Those older single peddle tractors are the worse once you hit the brake the clutch is disengage and it will freewheel. Steep hill are also bad even with brakes only one wheel will have brakes and the other will freewheel. I preferer the later model tractors with induvial brake and clutch peddles as you have a little more control. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,205 #10 Posted September 22 6 hours ago, Jason X said: It's the shoe I believe but I didn't have even a spare minute to pull the wheel and look. AZ tractor, got it. When that spare minute shows up pop the brake off and post pics. You may be able to replace the shoe. The material is available from McMaster Carr or send me a pm and I'll slice a hunk off my bulk roll. It's an easy repair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,205 #11 Posted September 22 4 hours ago, Lee1977 said: Those older single peddle tractors are the worse once you hit the brake the clutch is disengage and it will freewheel. Steep hill are also bad even with brakes only one wheel will have brakes and the other will freewheel. I preferer the later model tractors with induvial brake and clutch peddles as you have a little more control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,505 #12 Posted September 22 17 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: When that spare minute shows up pop the brake off and post pics. You may be able to replace the shoe. The material is available from McMaster Carr or send me a pm and I'll slice a hunk off my bulk roll. It's an easy repair. Eric what do you use for bonding the pad to the ring. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,205 #13 Posted September 22 Just now, Retired Wrencher said: Eric what do you use for bonding the pad to the ring. We've been using plain clear silicone for years. We've had two failures with that. I believe it's because we had the brake band TOO SMOOTH so the silicone didn't have enough rough surface to bond too. Regardless... we're now trying Gorilla Glue. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmaynard 15,580 #14 Posted September 22 3 hours ago, ebinmaine said: Regardless... we're now trying Gorilla Glue. Gorilla glue will work, but there has to be moisture present for it to work. Also, it expands as it cures, so clamping is a must. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,205 #15 Posted September 22 22 minutes ago, rmaynard said: Gorilla glue will work, but there has to be moisture present for it to work. Also, it expands as it cures, so clamping is a must. We wrap ours with a short plethora of zipties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,505 #16 Posted September 23 19 hours ago, ebinmaine said: We wrap ours with a short plethora of zipties. Why can’t you just assemble it and tighten it up to drum real tight. I did that way one time it worked for me. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,205 #17 Posted September 23 2 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said: Why can’t you just assemble it and tighten it up to drum real tight. I did that way one time it worked for me. That seems like it would work just fine but with my luck I would glue the whole assembly to the transmission brake drum. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,352 #18 Posted September 23 21 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: That seems like it would work just fine but with my luck I would glue the whole assembly to the transmission brake drum. Saran Wrap it, like you did in the early years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rjg854 11,471 #19 Posted September 23 3 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said: Why can’t you just assemble it and tighten it up to drum real tight. I did that way one time it worked for me. That's the way I do mine. I haven't had a problem either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,734 #20 Posted September 23 Clean everything, use the adhesive of your choice (clear silicone for me), mount the band on the transmission and set the parking brake overnight. Works every time. 54 minutes ago, ebinmaine said: That seems like it would work just fine but with my luck I would glue the whole assembly to the transmission brake drum. Don't let @ebinmaine fool you, BBT does all the work and she doesn't make a mess. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylvanLakeWH 25,890 #21 Posted September 23 12 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Don't let @ebinmaine fool you, BBT does all the work and she doesn't make a mess. Hey hey hey... Let's be fair... I mean, @ebinmaine does take a lot of pictures (a lot of pictures ) and post, (a lot of posts ), about BBT's work... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 68,205 #22 Posted September 23 19 minutes ago, 953 nut said: Clean everything, use the adhesive of your choice (clear silicone for me), mount the band on the transmission and set the parking brake overnight. Works every time. Don't let @ebinmaine fool you, BBT does all the work and she doesn't make a mess. I got no argument.... 2 minutes ago, SylvanLakeWH said: Hey hey hey... Let's be fair... I mean, @ebinmaine does take a lot of pictures (a lot of pictures ) and post, (a lot of posts ), about BBT's work... Actually...... She takes most of the pictures too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
