2drxploder 103 #1 Posted September 21 as usaual my 9 pin was shot. replaced it with 2 weather pack 4 and 5 pin 30 amp connectors, w/ pigtails, soldered and marine grade heat shrinks. my tach, dash lights, headlights, tail lights, and charging system came back to life. who would have thought? anyways im interested in the charging circuit re-route. could some one post a link? whats the benefit? also upgraded dash and head lights to led.... super nice! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,432 #2 Posted September 21 Love those LED lights. As we rebuild tractors I switch em all over. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #3 Posted September 21 The only charge circuit re route I know of was just to get it out of the nine pin. Maybe @cleat knows more. 6 minutes ago, 2drxploder said: also upgraded dash and head lights to led.... super nice! Pics?!?!?! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2drxploder 103 #4 Posted September 21 11 minutes ago, WHX?? said: The only charge circuit re route I know of was just to get it out of the nine pin. Maybe @cleat knows more. Pics?!?!?! 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cleat 5,929 #5 Posted September 21 28 minutes ago, WHX?? said: The only charge circuit re route I know of was just to get it out of the nine pin. Maybe @cleat knows more. Pics?!?!?! The upgrade is to go to the way wheel horse did it on the early models (1988, 1989) and run the charge current directly from the regulator output to the battery cable on the starter with a 30A inline fuse for protection. Here is the wire diagram showing how it came from the factory. Wheel horse 520H wire diagram.pdf The later ( 1990 and up) models ran the charge current through the 9 pin white wire shown on the attached diagram then passes through the 30A fuse and then goes back through the 9 pin on the red wire and then on to the battery cable at the starter. Later model 520 wire diagram.pdf I believe that is why the newer 520's and I believe the 416's have many more 9 pin issues than the 1988 and 1989 models. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,069 #6 Posted September 21 1 hour ago, 2drxploder said: Can you post the brand, where bought, part number for the led dash lights please ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,194 #7 Posted September 21 8 hours ago, cleat said: I believe that is why the newer 520's and I believe the 416's have many more 9 pin issues than the 1988 and 1989 models You are absolutely correct. The nine pin is not a heavy duty connector and is placed near the battery where it is subjected to battery acid fumes as the charging system replenishes the battery. The only high amperage passing through the nine pin is the charging current and once the connectors are slightly corroded and loosen from day to day vibration the higher current flow develops enough heat to melt the plastic. If dielectric grease had been used on the nine pins at the factory preventing the corrosion they probably wouldn't ever have been a problem. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,071 #8 Posted September 21 The problem with dielectric grease is it is not conductive contrary to popular beliefs. It would be beneficial on the outside of the connection to keep crap and moisture out. Muffler heat also effects the 9 pin plastic. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,194 #9 Posted September 21 1 minute ago, squonk said: The problem with dielectric grease is it is not conductive contrary to popular beliefs. It would be beneficial on the outside of the connection to keep crap and moisture out. Muffler heat also effects the 9 pin plastic. If the pins of the connector aren't tight enough to push the grease away it will fail anyway. The dielectric grease merely fills the gaps where corrosion could take place. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Kennell 38,145 #10 Posted September 21 9 hours ago, cleat said: I believe that is why the newer 520's and I believe the 416's have many more 9 pin issues than the 1988 and 1989 models. Exactly, never had an issue with my '88. Also prefer the motion control stick on the console. Much easier to add a foot pedal control. '90 went to the steering column. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill D 1,920 #11 Posted September 21 9 hours ago, 2drxploder said: I love those LED headlights. What brand are they and where did you buy them? Thanks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,610 #12 Posted September 21 @2drxploder looks like a perfect time to give your paint a penetrating oil spray down , no sandpaper or quick attempts to make it better, let all related paint sit and soak in the lubrication a couple of days , then a clean cloth penetrant rub down , if paint breaks thru , a 6" electric palm buffer , cleaner wax usually brings it out , done this often , never a one and done , WATCH FOR PAINT TRANSFORMATION , thats showing you the way . regularly rub down my horses , with a clean cloth , penetrant , refresh / clean / clear , do dirt / dust , zero rust , pretty easy , pete 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #13 Posted September 21 (edited) 9 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: Can you post the brand, where bought, part number for the led dash lights please ? Super bright leds Newbs ... BA 9,,, is where I got mine. Trouble is such a selection to choose from https://www.superbrightleds.com/led-light-bulbs-universal-finder/ba9s-led-bulb-1-led-ba9s-retrofit-classic-car-bulb-ba9s-x-xvac-car+volts-12V~ACDC Edited September 21 by WHX?? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,069 #14 Posted September 22 Thank you kindly… Did you get the Cool (6000 K), or the Warm (2700 K). ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2drxploder 103 #15 Posted September 22 Amazon dash lights: BA9S BA9 1895 1891 53 57 47830 64111 3893 LED Bulb White, Super Bright Canbus Error Free 12 Volt Replacements for Interior Dome Map Lamp License Plate Glove Box Lights (Pack of 10) headlights: Round 18W Agriculture LED Work Light,Par 36 LED Light Replace 4410, 4411 Sealed Beam, Tractor LED Compatible with Allis Chalmers Ford International John Deere Case Tractor Flood 12V 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,815 #16 Posted September 23 9 hours ago, Horse Newbie said: Thank you kindly… Did you get the Cool (6000 K), or the Warm (2700 K). ? Who Me Neubs? ... 6K 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horse Newbie 7,069 #17 Posted September 24 On 9/22/2024 at 9:53 PM, WHX?? said: Who Me Neubs? ... 6K Nah, was asking @2drxploder, but hey, I don’t mind who responds trying to help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2drxploder 103 #18 Posted September 24 6k here too 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
