Lift tube and flag

[JimSraj 429]

Been trying to find a lift tube (107403) and flag (1986) for a 06-42ST42 05, updated to 79350, at a reasonable price with no luck. Can anyone tell me if these parts from other short chute blowers are the same and will work?  If so which ones?  
As another option it Looks like they should not be too difficult to make if I had all the dimensions of both pieces. 

[ebinmaine 67,397]

I have a short chute from the mid 70s that I'll be dropping off to @Maz91 Mike in the next few days. I can get you measurements on that if you like.

[Handy Don 12,204]

2 hours ago, JimSraj said:

they should not be too difficult to make if I had all the dimensions of both pieces. 

Definitely a (mostly) straightforward fabrication but dimensions are critical--the effective range of the arm on the rock shaft is only about 3” so not a lot of room for “play"!

The “flag” component typically has a double bend offset at the rock shaft end to assure the lift force is center-aligned with the push rod going to the blower.

[ebinmaine 67,397]

2 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

 

The “flag” component typically has a DOUBLE BEND OFFSET at the rock shaft end to assure the lift force is center-aligned with the push rod going to the blower.

 

 

It's possible that offset could be created accurately with the CORRECT THICKNESS steel, laid one piece onto the other.

[ri702bill 8,311]

I may be wrong, but Lowell sels repro lift flags....

[JimSraj 429]

2 hours ago, ebinmaine said:

I have a short chute from the mid 70s that I'll be dropping off to @Maz91 Mike in the next few days. I can get you measurements on that if you like.

Thanks Eric. The blower I have is from a 1988. Do you know if they used the same rods and flags?

[JimSraj 429]

53 minutes ago, Handy Don said:

Definitely a (mostly) straightforward fabrication but dimensions are critical--the effective range of the arm on the rock shaft is only about 3” so not a lot of room for “play"!

The “flag” component typically has a double bend offset at the rock shaft end to assure the lift force is center-aligned with the push rod going to the blower.

Does the flag slide inside the tube?

[Ed Kennell 38,114]

2 hours ago, JimSraj said:

Does the flag slide inside the tube?

Yes, then flat washers can be used to make fine adjustments to the length.

 

I've made several tubes from 3/4" pipe.     I flattened the blower end, drilled a hole and bent the correct angle on the end.  Cut to the correct length after the flag is made and installed.

Also made several flags from 1/2" round bar and welded two plates one on  in each side that sandwiched the lift lever in between.

This design puts the force centered on the rod.

[JimSraj 429]

3 hours ago, Ed Kennell said:

Yes, then flat washers can be used to make fine adjustments to the length.

 

I've made several tubes from 3/4" pipe.     I flattened the blower end, drilled a hole and bent the correct angle on the end.  Cut to the correct length after the flag is made and installed.

Also made several flags from 1/2" round bar and welded two plates one on  in each side that sandwiched the lift lever in between.

This design puts the force centered on the rod.

That flag design is exactly what I was thinking of. Now if I had the dimensions for these parts I’d get started. 

[wallfish 16,994]

21 minutes ago, JimSraj said:

That flag design is exactly what I was thinking of. Now if I had the dimensions for these parts I’d get started. 

Pretty sure all of that info for the flag and lift rod has been posted on here before . Use the search on the upper right corner

[cleat 5,915]

Not my writeup but I have this if it helps.

 

Lift rod and flag for 42 snowblower.docx

 

[peter lena 8,604]

@JimSraj  would personally go over LUBRICATED FUNCTIONAL  DETAILING ,  HOW EASILY IT MOVES / LIFTS , used to also set my blower up on a 4x4  width  wise , for initial lifting ease . chute height  is all dependant  on majority of snow type , regular heavy , short chute , light / dry / fluffy  , tall chute , would also plan on moving snow with the sun angle to assist in melting blown snow . my snow now is light , blade work , maybe  the walking snow blower , pete

[JimSraj 429]

16 hours ago, cleat said:

Not my writeup but I have this if it helps.

 

Lift rod and flag for 42 snowblower.docx 462.01 kB · 3 downloads

 

Ok, I couldn’t open it on my phone but could on the iPad. Perfect, that’s exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. 

[wallfish 16,994]

 

[fourwheelhorseman 278]

I’ve got a tube and flag I’ll sell you, get me your dimensions that you need and ill

messure what I have.

[JimSraj 429]

Looks like the tube should be about 44-3/4” from the center of the hole to the end of the tube that the flag goes into. Flag at 11” long. 

[JimSraj 429]

6 hours ago, fourwheelhorseman said:

I’ve got a tube and flag I’ll sell you, get me your dimensions that you need and ill

messure what I have.

 

[JimSraj 429]

6 minutes ago, JimSraj said:

 

Do you know the model # of that blower you just got?  I’m not sure it matters as long as the lift tube length matches what I’m looking for but it would help confirm the 44-3/4” dimension it it’s the same model blower as mine. 06 42ST 05

[Maz91 202]

19 hours ago, JimSraj said:

Do you know the model # of that blower you just got?  I’m not sure it matters as long as the lift tube length matches what I’m looking for but it would help confirm the 44-3/4” dimension it it’s the same model blower as mine. 06 42ST 05

The blower that @ebinmaine dropped on me is the exactly same year and model number you have. I can verify the measurements and get back to you soon if that would be helpful. Should be able to get them by the end of the day tomorrow. 

[fourwheelhorseman 278]

21 hours ago, JimSraj said:

Looks like the tube should be about 44-3/4” from the center of the hole to the end of the tube that the flag goes into. Flag at 11” long. 

I’ll measure tomorrow and I’ll get back with you. 

[JimSraj 429]

3 hours ago, Maz91 said:

The blower that @ebinmaine dropped on me is the exactly same year and model number you have. I can verify the measurements and get back to you soon if that would be helpful. Should be able to get them by the end of the day tomorrow. 

That would great. It should be correct if it’s the same year and model. Where are you located?  Will you ship?

[Maz91 202]

2 hours ago, JimSraj said:

That would great. It should be correct if it’s the same year and model. Where are you located?  Will you ship?

Oh my mistake, thought you were looking for measurements to fabricate the parts. 

[JimSraj 429]

9 hours ago, Maz91 said:

Oh my mistake, thought you were looking for measurements to fabricate the parts. 

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought you were offering it. I’ll be happy for the measurements if you don’t mind. 

[Handy Don 12,204]

5 hours ago, JimSraj said:

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought you were offering it. I’ll be happy for the measurements if you don’t mind. 

One lift tube that I had (and have passed onward) had a ¼”x 1” bar edge-welded along its entire length as reinforcement. Of course it was cracking at the unreinforced bend where it joined the bottom of the blower.

Not sure what year or model that was for.

[Maz91 202]

Ok, so I took the measurements and can confirm the attached document by Cleat in post 11 is 100% accurate. 👍🏼