WHX?? 48,813 #1 Posted September 12 (edited) This one sitting in a field rotting away. So I rescued it. Tractor heavy and already have a 856 that needs love and I can't seem to give away. Saw it at a show several weeks ago and it was sitting there crying save me save me. I jokingly offered the owner a frankie for it and much to my surprise he took it. Motor was locked up so pulled it back to camp for a look see. @Achto @Wild Bill 633 and I commenced to wrenching to find out the motor is free but the SG is tight. Got it loosened up and messed with the points. Exhaust valve stuck open ... pop the head and free that up. Fired right off and drives. Service motor and seller says he has the original I could have but knowing him doubt I'll see it. Four year old Battery was stone cold dead... not a volt in it. Threw it on a charger and it did take a charge and seems to be holding it. Surprise surprise. Tires are abit needy but nothing serious. Best part everything is there, original cigar lighter woo hoo, and fairly unmolested. On the splash pad ready for a bath... sheet metal really straight. Seat & hitch worth the price of admission... Edited September 12 by WHX?? 4 19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,813 #2 Posted September 12 (edited) The Debby Downer ... Dan mumbled something about a set screw but doesn't appear to have a keyway??? Any thoughts on why a service motor wouldn't have one? Edited September 12 by WHX?? 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,994 #3 Posted September 12 Gotta love those little 8 Kohlers as they ALL just want to run. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,397 #4 Posted September 12 Nice save Jim! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,450 #6 Posted September 12 7 hours ago, wallfish said: Gotta love those little 8 Kohlers as they ALL just want to run. Well said John. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,450 #7 Posted September 12 Jim as fellow 856 owner that seat is the price of admission. Looks savable. Just take your time with it dry it out in a sunny room put some leather conditioner on it and re-pad if needed. I hope you put some time into this one. I did this one this year. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Bill 633 845 #8 Posted September 12 The look on @WHX??face when the engine ran was priceless. 5 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,604 #9 Posted September 12 @WHX?? different views , splash pad or oil down ? personally would only oil soak down patina , thats my first transition on any rusty pick up I get . don,t even touch the finish for days , just let it soak in the recovery process , that oiled look would enhance what's there , would also rub it down with a clean oiled cloth , do not , sand or remove any of that base coat . just me , pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike'sHorseBarn 2,998 #10 Posted September 12 Great score for a benny! If it was me I probably would get it mechanically right and leave it in the rough. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,813 #11 Posted September 12 2 hours ago, Retired Wrencher said: that seat is the price of admission. Seller mentioned that he has 150 in the seat. Thought is Wrencher after the EB check list is to put a eight inch plow on it and use it for a house tractor at plow day since I sold the no '73 name 8 I had set up. If that happens yah the seat will get swapped out for a beater. Either way it will probaly go on a resto or a more refined tractor. 19 minutes ago, peter lena said: splash pad or oil down It will get a gentle power washing. The tunnel is filled with dirt and crap but after that just something for the to die for patina. Fer sure leave it rough Mike. Paint has never been messed with. I shoulda got a pic before we moved it. Grass and weeds growing up thru it and filled with grass clippings. Choke and throttle froze up solid so saving those is going to be work. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,604 #12 Posted September 12 @WHX?? that choke / throttle issue , 2 choices , replace the cables or , kroil , knock r loose , penetrating oil , with an extension spring on the close side of connection mount . initial soak down , if you can get it to move , to any degree , put spring on opposite end to assist movement , done that , and have that spring assist on all my cable control movement start points . think about it , every time you move the cable , you have a spring at the other end , helping you to pull it closed / off . do a trial on an existing movable cable , to test / try pull assist , like having a 3 rd arm , experiment , it works , pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handy Don 12,204 #13 Posted September 12 (edited) 14 hours ago, WHX?? said: Any thoughts on why a service motor wouldn't have one? Possibly a Woodruff hidden by the wide 3-gang pulley? Slop/wear caused the “hack spot weld” solution? Edited September 12 by Handy Don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Achto 27,562 #14 Posted September 12 (edited) I'm not usually one who likes to be wrenching while at a show, but this was a fun project. Once we knew the engine was free, I inspected the fuel system to find that it was dry & clean. Given these facts I knew that with a little "field triage" we would be able to get it running. Open cylinder head surgery is usually not recommended in the field, but in this case it was worth the risk. Was great to see the look on the PO's face when Jim drove it by him. Edited September 12 by Achto 4 2 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Bill 633 845 #15 Posted September 12 (edited) 5 hours ago, Achto said: Was great to see the look on the PO's face when Jim drove it by him. I was not there at the time but I can just hear @WHX??saying, "OK I got it running, so now where in the hell is the hood?" LOL. Edited September 12 by Wild Bill 633 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,397 #16 Posted September 12 8 hours ago, WHX?? said: EB check list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,813 #17 Posted September 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wild Bill 633 said: where in the hell is the hood He told us he had it and would bring it next day. Which of course he forgot it cause him and Dan went out and got hammered at the local dive bar nite before. Had his gf bring it so I have it. Said he had a set of the older weights he let me have for 50 clams... sold I says. He forgot them too. Supposedly coming to plow day so said he would bring them. Edited September 12 by WHX?? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,051 #18 Posted September 12 8 hours ago, Achto said: Was great to see the look on the PO's face when Jim drove it by him. B-I-L and I did that with a wrecked Chevy Chevette ! Priceless! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_Mac 8,602 #19 Posted September 13 I ran across an 856 I just couldn't leave behind also. It is now one of my most reliable machines. 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Retired Wrencher 5,450 #20 Posted September 13 (edited) 21 hours ago, peter lena said: @WHX?? different views , splash pad or oil down ? personally would only oil soak down patina , thats my first transition on any rusty pick up I get . don,t even touch the finish for days , just let it soak in the recovery process , that oiled look would enhance what's there , would also rub it down with a clean oiled cloth , do not , sand or remove any of that base coat . just me , pete ::just let it soak in the recovery process :: I am with you on this Pete. Edited September 13 by Retired Wrencher 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,163 #21 Posted September 13 On 9/11/2024 at 9:17 PM, WHX?? said: The Debby Downer ... Dan mumbled something about a set screw but doesn't appear to have a keyway??? Any thoughts on why a service motor wouldn't have one? Check out the Spec. Number on the engine, could be a pump/generator engine with a tapered shaft that a PO put s kit on. Looking at the end of the crank shaft in your photo it looks that way to me. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,813 #22 Posted September 13 3 hours ago, 953 nut said: Check out the Spec. Number on the engine, Have yet to run that number but will do Richard. Would like to grind off them welds and check it out as the pulley could go in another 1/8. Not serious tho and if it ain't broke don't fix it I guess. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,813 #23 Posted September 14 (edited) Spec # checks out as a ... they used the original shroud. Short block maybe? Just keeps gettin better... Found this under seat debris... regular freakin hardware store there... Now I gotta see if I can save the rusted tight needle nose... Whatthehellisthematta with a clown like me... Edited September 14 by WHX?? 1 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 16,994 #24 Posted September 14 7 minutes ago, WHX?? said: Now I gotta see if I can save the rusted tight needle nose. What's up with that rust buster? Does it work? Or just the same as oil? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,813 #25 Posted September 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, wallfish said: What's up with that rust buster? Does it work? Or just the same as oil? Dunno first I ever used it... fell off the truck when I was workin... It's definitely not just oil. Edited September 14 by WHX?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
