defed 0 #1 Posted September 6, 2009 can anyone tell me the difference between these loaders...07-72FL01 and 07-48FL01? the 72 is for a D-250 and the 48 is for the D-auto's. is the overall length different (72" vs 48"), is one just a heavier duty model, etc? thanks Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Docwheelhorse 2,682 #2 Posted September 6, 2009 Hi--the D250 was its own animal---it was made in Germany and painted Red with Wheel Horse decals. They do not have anything in common with the "standard" D's such as the D160... the frames aren't even close. It would probably take some heavy fabrication to put a loader from a 250 onto a regular D or vice versa. Good Luck!! Tony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
defed 0 #3 Posted September 6, 2009 hey Doc, my brother has several D-250's, so i know that physically they are quite different. we just bought another one that came w/ a loader. he just built a loader for his D-250, so i took it for my D-160. i was just curious what the size difference was between the 07-72FL01 and the 07-48FL01 were...if any. possible, the only difference is the under carriage mount and the pump mount/connection. guess i will have to set the loader on the ground and drive the D into it and see how it looks. i won't have a problem w/ making an under carriage mount for it. bigger problem may be hooking up the pump. i have a rear pto, which has a splined shaft sticking out the front. seems in that case it would be easiest to utilize that w/ a sort of flex coupling that came w/ the loader for the D-250...but may be difficult to match the splines. w/o the rear pto, it looks as if it would be easiest to use a pulley on the loader pump. we'll see how it goes, not a priority to get it mounted this year. Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d180man 5 #4 Posted September 6, 2009 Hi here is some photos! for tractor we have looked at ! they may help! this is how they go on a d160 d180 and d200 and how the pump goes on ! it is belt drive! This is a d160 d180 and d200 under frame if you look et the d250 they are not the same! 250 photos and look at the under frame! Here is how a d250 pump goes on! i have some more photos you can look at them here ! hope they help if you have more ? just ask! http://s285.photobucket.com/albums/ll56/ar...orse%20loaders/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
defed 0 #5 Posted September 6, 2009 as a point of reference, i measured from center of steering wheel to front of hood on both my D-160 and my brother's D-250. they are close. the D-250 was a cpl inches longer. IF there is a difference in the size of the loaders, it would probably have longer arms coming off the uprights (arm for main lift cylinder). the arms on the 07-72FL01 are 48". i got it standing up in the driveway now, tomorrow i will try to drive my D-160 inside it and see how it looks. one difference for sure is the cross brace between the lower arms. it's pretty massive on the 07-72FL01. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
defed 0 #6 Posted September 6, 2009 ok, i found the parts drawing for both models. couldn't find the D-auto at first because i was using the old #. all 4 cylinders are the same, the controls are the same, and even the pumps are the same (different mount and coupling obviously). the uprights and the loader itself do have different #'s....but, that could be because the uprights are different because of the way they mount to the sub-frame, and the loader has a different cross piece on the front arms...so they ARE technically 'different' (enough for a separate part #)...but possibly only very minor differences. but, if they both use the same 4 hydraulic cylinders....they can't be THAT different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wh500special 2,244 #7 Posted September 7, 2009 I think both D-style loaders were made by Ark. The D-auto used an Ark 550, the D-250 was a different number that I don't recall off hand (might be 551). I thought they were essentially the same loader with just a different subframe and pump mount. Not to tell you what to do, but the loader for the D250 is kind of hard to come by. Granted, the D-auto loaders aren't growing on trees, but you do see many more of them. You might be able to find a buyer for the 250 loader and then replace it with the model appropriate for your tractor. Or, at a minimum, make a new subframe rather than modify the existing one so it can be returned to D250 use if the mood strikes at a later date. As mentioned elsewhere, make sure your tractor has the 1" spindles and not the 3/4-inchers (trust me). Snap! Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
defed 0 #8 Posted September 7, 2009 yea, i planned to make a new subframe. my brother wants to keep the original subframe in case he makes some new attachment for his D-250's. after studying the pictures, it looks like they are slightly different. the D-250 upper arms are longer than on the D-auto, and the lower arm is shorter. on the D-auto, it looks like both upper and lower arms are the same length. uprights appear to be the same length. i took a pic of each (where the front wheels are raised up) and put it into a photo editor and resized one until i got the lower lift cylinders to be the same size on each. then i just compared the lengths of all the arms now that the 2 pics are close to the same scale. it will have to suffice until someone measures me a D-auto loader. going to go test fit it now on my D-160. oh, not sure about my spindles, but can always upgrade them. Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
defed 0 #9 Posted September 7, 2009 looks like it will fit ok. i put the bucket down like that for stability. i noticed that the cylinders don't retract 100%, some of the shaft sticks out. i wonder if the bucket will go all the way to the ground when flat (not much travel left in the main lift cylinders from where it is now)...i suppose it has to, the D-auto can't be higher off the ground then the D-250. Attached Image Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d180man 5 #10 Posted September 7, 2009 Hi it look like it may work! i would put the bucket flat and see what it looks like ! but i just would not cut on or up on the loader! but good luck with it ! :ychain: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
defed 0 #11 Posted September 7, 2009 thanks. i'm not going to do any mods to the loader, all the mods will be to the new subframe. i was going to put the bucket down and see what it looked like, but i've got a late wave of mosquitoes out there that is just brutal. so i put the tractor away and had someone help me carry the loader into the shed for the winter. unless there is a big difference in ground clearance of the two models, it has to touch the ground! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdog_kustoms 82 #12 Posted September 7, 2009 but will it go as high with part of the cylinders used when its down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
defed 0 #13 Posted September 8, 2009 i don't know! i see in the manual, it states 4" digging depth. i'm not exactly sure how that is measured....height the front wheels would lift off the ground when the bucket is flat and lift cylinders completely retracted? if so, i could adjust the subframe mounting height to make it match. but, i still can't see the D-250 loader being mounted closer to ground than a D-auto. in other words, the distance from the ground to the bottom of the uprights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdog_kustoms 82 #14 Posted September 8, 2009 run the tractor up on blocks and set the bucket up acordingly is the only way to tell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
