hotajax 225 #1 Posted August 20, 2024 Checked Tractor Supply, all they sell is a huge variety box mostly stuff I don't need and no guarantee that it has what I do need. Looking for the zirk on my front wheels that lubes the axle spindles. It mounts at a 45 degree angle to the axis of the spindle so you can get the grease gun tip in there. I have not taken the defective part off yet, so I can't tell you anything about the thread size. Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 69,706 #2 Posted August 20, 2024 IMHO your best bet will be to get the size(s) you need and order bulk from McMaster-Carr. Top notch quality. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,739 #3 Posted August 20, 2024 The fittings on a Wheel Horse are all 1/4-28 thread, the mixed box you get at retail stores has a lot of 1/8" NPT fittings that are seldom used on anything but industrial applications. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,970 #4 Posted August 20, 2024 @hotajax those front wheel spindles should be , hand lubricated to ensure lubrication insertion , like to remove bearing side shields . clean out and use a 550 deg hi stress / load lube , lucas X TRA HD chassis grease , bombproof , also get some spacers / washers to snug up the wheel bearing connection , eliminate the wheel side to side play , thats what eats the bearing mount area out . destroys the wheel . actually very easy to do . while you are there grease the front axle mount to frame and the wheel spindles , while the wheels are off , like a vinyl top spindle grease cover , protects from crud , up on jack stands , pete 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotajax 225 #5 Posted August 21, 2024 Peter: Where do you get those big washers to stop the side-to-side play? Is that a common washer that a hardware store would have or is it a Wheel Horse part? They look to me like a machined part rather than a stamped common washer. Thanks for your input. 6 hours ago, 953 nut said: The fittings on a Wheel Horse are all 1/4-28 thread, the mixed box you get at retail stores has a lot of 1/8" NPT fittings that are seldom used on anything but industrial applications. 6 hours ago, peter lena said: @hotajax those front wheel spindles should be , hand lubricated to ensure lubrication insertion , like to remove bearing side shields . clean out and use a 550 deg hi stress / load lube , lucas X TRA HD chassis grease , bombproof , also get some spacers / washers to snug up the wheel bearing connection , eliminate the wheel side to side play , thats what eats the bearing mount area out . destroys the wheel . actually very easy to do . while you are there grease the front axle mount to frame and the wheel spindles , while the wheels are off , like a vinyl top spindle grease cover , protects from crud , up on jack stands , pete 6 hours ago, 953 nut said: The fittings on a Wheel Horse are all 1/4-28 thread, the mixed box you get at retail stores has a lot of 1/8" NPT fittings that are seldom used on anything but industrial applications. @953 nut Thanks for that info. now i don't have to go all over looking around for a thread gauge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,729 #6 Posted August 21, 2024 Peter: Where do you get those big washers to stop the side-to-side play? Is that a common washer that a hardware store would have or is it a Wheel Horse part? They look to me like a machined part rather than a stamped common washer. Thanks for your input. Once again, McMaster Carr. They sell what I call a "Party Pack" of precision 3/4" ID shims of various thicknesses. I always have one on hand; they are used to minimize steering play thruout the steering system...... where the steering wheel shaft gear sits in / on the lower support block, under it to set the sector clearance, spindle-to-axle top gap, axle pivot-to-frame gap (huge improvement), and spindle axle length. I take up all the excess play so that the ball bearing inner races are not allowed to turn on the spindle itself under an extremely light preload. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 69,706 #7 Posted August 21, 2024 2 hours ago, ri702bill said: precision 3/4" ID shims @hotajax These are extremely handy. Until a few years ago I didn't understand the difference between a 3/4 washer and a 3/4 shim. They're night and day. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 56,739 #8 Posted August 21, 2024 Our local ACE Hardware caries the 3/4" shim washers in various thicknesses. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,729 #9 Posted August 21, 2024 2 hours ago, ebinmaine said: @hotajax These are extremely handy. Until a few years ago I didn't understand the difference between a 3/4 washer and a 3/4 shim. They're night and day. Yup... washer thickness can vary widely from brand to brand and lot to lot. You measure them with either "Well, 2 will fit, but not 3, so 2 it is" or the old @Pullstart "Eye-chrometer". Precision shims are just that - stacked to leave the desired slight clearance....... Measured with a dial caliper or feeler gauge...... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,970 #10 Posted August 21, 2024 @hotajax lots of good feed back from , members on this common issue , BTW , since doing that front wheel side shim detailing , have had zero / no front wheel sloppiness, might also get some vinyl , front wheel caps , they stay on , look good . more often than not , just a little detailing on your W/H functional set ups , makes a world of difference , like 3 / 1 penetrating oil into your choke / throttle cables , imagine , no rusty crusty drag , just smooth easy pull response . stay at it , pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hotajax 225 #11 Posted August 21, 2024 8 hours ago, peter lena said: @hotajax lots of good feed back from , members on this common issue , BTW , since doing that front wheel side shim detailing , have had zero / no front wheel sloppiness, might also get some vinyl , front wheel caps , they stay on , look good . more often than not , just a little detailing on your W/H functional set ups , makes a world of difference , like 3 / 1 penetrating oil into your choke / throttle cables , imagine , no rusty crusty drag , just smooth easy pull response . stay at it , pete @ri702bill @peter lena @ebinmaine@953 nut You guys saved me a bunch of ag. I called two old-time lawn mower places, and neither had the shims. Found the precision brand shims, I'm going to order two different thicknesses so I can configure the axle the way I need to. At 75 cents per shim, not a big layout of cash. Thanks 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites