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[smitty316 24]

Thanks guys!! Considering the water that drained out of it when I started, it'll probably be good to tear it apart and see how bad it really is. I'll definitely be picking your brains when I get going on it. And thanks for the manual info 953 nut.

 

Smitty

[smitty316 24]

I'm looking at the manuals and I do see  85-1993 8 speed 1.125" 8 pinion 110995.

Mine's an 86,  31-16k802, but I don't see the 110995 on mine. The numbers on my case are 111200. 111204 and there's a number 5351.  I didn't see one in the list of manuals with these numbers. Will the manual for 110995 work for mine?

 

Thanks, Smitty

[rjg854 11,356]

Do a good diesel fuel flush on that tranny before you open it up to get as much loose junk and gear oil out of it, as you can.  That may aid you in cleaning everything up.   

[953 nut 55,163]

10 hours ago, smitty316 said:

I'm looking at the manuals and I do see  85-1993 8 speed 1.125" 8 pinion 110995.

Mine's an 86,  31-16k802, but I don't see the 110995 on mine. The numbers on my case are 111200. 111204 and there's a number 5351.  I didn't see one in the list of manuals with these numbers. Will the manual for 110995 work for mine?

 

Thanks, Smitty

The eight speed Transaxles didn't change all that much from one year to the next. You have a 1986  so the 85-1993 is the manual you should use.

[smitty316 24]

Thanks 953 nut,  I guess this is more of a parts diagram than a service manual? Or maybe I'm not looking at the right thing. This will definitely be helpful, but a full service manual would be great if there's one available.

 

Thanks, Smitty

[Handy Don 12,204]

1 hour ago, smitty316 said:

Thanks 953 nut,  I guess this is more of a parts diagram than a service manual? Or maybe I'm not looking at the right thing. This will definitely be helpful, but a full service manual would be great if there's one available.

 

Thanks, Smitty

There is a manual that covers many of the 3-, 6-, and 8-speeds in the files section. Search for “transmission uni-drive” in files/documents and choose the “use all my search terms” option

Edited August 29 by Handy Don

[953 nut 55,163]

On 8/28/2024 at 7:14 PM, 953 nut said:

Here is a post done by @stevasaurus for rebuilding the eight speed. Here is a list of manuals for Wheel Horse transmissions, pick yours out and download it.

https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/files/category/23-manual/

 

THIS THREAD IS BETTER THAN ANY MANUAL, here is the manual.

 

Edited August 29 by 953 nut

[smitty316 24]

Okay 953 Nut, I'm still struggling with finding an actual manual, but I'll definitely start watching these. It's too hot to work in my shop right now anyway.

 

Thanks, Smitty

[smitty316 24]

Hi guys, I have my 416-8 trans axle on my work bench. I got the input shaft pulley off, but I'm struggling with the break drum. I saw in another post where you recommended a pickle fork. I worry about damaging the case by forcing the pickle bar between it and the drum. Is this a reasonable concern? Or is there another way to get it off? Also, you mention removing a retainer clip. I don't see that part on the parts diagram, only the bolt and washer.

 

Thanks, Smitty

[smitty316 24]

Never mind on that last question about removing the break drum. I was able to get it off by driving a wooden wedge between it and the case and then tapping on the bolt that hold it in.

 

Smitty

[smitty316 24]

This is a good stopping point for today. The water that sat in it definitely took its tole, but I think it'll clean up okay. I can see that the bearing where the axle seal was leaking is definitely bad as you said it would be. I'll wash out the other bearing the best I can and see how they look/feel. I have a small lathe so my plan is to turn an arbor to drive this bearing out unless anyone has a better way of doing it.

 

Thanks,

 

Smitty

[smitty316 24]

I have it apart and cleaned up. It's not perfect, but I think I'll just have to replace the axle needle bearings. I don't have an arbor press. Are there any good videos on pulling and reinstalling these needle bearings? Also, I'm putting together a parts list. I think you said to let you know when I'm ready to order parts. Do you have a good source?

 

Thanks,

 

Smitty

[oliver2-44 9,726]

There’s a thread pinned at the top of the Transmission section that has cross reference numbers for the transmission bearings and seals. You can order them at a local bearing house such as Motion Industries or even some NAPA stores

Edited September 12 by oliver2-44

[smitty316 24]

Thanks Oliver2-44

[oliver2-44 9,726]

Wheel Horse Parts and More also has transmission bearings 

[smitty316 24]

I'm waiting on my bearings and seals so I had time to make these oak pieces to press in my bearings. I experimented a little with an old bearing and it seems like it'll work. I'll try the freezer trick too. The first picture shows what I did early on when I removed the first axle seal. Pretty dumb, but I'll just add it to the wake of screwups I've left in my past.

Originally I was hoping to fix the leak by just replacing the seal, but that was a waste of effort and the cost of a seal. I'm really glad that I went ahead and tore it down so I could give it a much needed cleaning and take a closer look.

 

Thanks again, Smitty

[smitty316 24]

Also, I took a measurement of the depth of the bearing before I pulled it out. It's about 3/16" below the surface. Is this a good depth for receiving the seal?

 

Thanks,

Smitty

[smitty316 24]

Hi, Anyone know where I can find a trans axle oil filler tube? Mine's cracked.

 

Thanks, Smitty

[953 nut 55,163]

On 9/22/2024 at 7:16 PM, smitty316 said:

Hi, Anyone know where I can find a trans axle oil filler tube? Mine's cracked.

 

Thanks, Smitty

https://www.wheelhorseforum.com/classifieds/wanted/          or you could call Lincoln at A-Z Tractor Parts.      https://www.a-ztractor.com/

[Handy Don 12,204]

On 9/22/2024 at 7:16 PM, smitty316 said:

Hi, Anyone know where I can find a trans axle oil filler tube? Mine's cracked.

 

Thanks, Smitty

There are different lengths of tube. Be prepared with your model number or a good measurement.

[smitty316 24]

Hi, I'm guessing that this lift arm shouldn't be bent like this? Just double checking before I make an effort to straighten it out.

 

Thanks, Smitty

[953 nut 55,163]

17 hours ago, smitty316 said:

I'm guessing that this lift arm shouldn't be bent like this? Just double checking before I make an effort to straighten it out

If it works alright I wouldn't mess with it.             

[smitty316 24]

It had bound up the rod inside so I straightened it enough for the rod to move. It's hard to imagine how it got bent that way. It wasn't easy to straighten out.

[Handy Don 12,204]

1 hour ago, smitty316 said:

It had bound up the rod inside so I straightened it enough for the rod to move. It's hard to imagine how it got bent that way. It wasn't easy to straighten out.

Yep, was originally straight but with an offset angle to keep the arm away from the hood. Good job getting enough leverage on it to get it partway back.

My guess would be the lever got caught on something while the tractor was moving--lotta kinetic energy in a moving WH!

[Bill D 1,916]

1 hour ago, smitty316 said:

It had bound up the rod inside so I straightened it enough for the rod to move. It's hard to imagine how it got bent that way. It wasn't easy to straighten out.

Judging by the angle of that bend it's likely that the previous owner was lifting a heavy attachment without any kind of spring assist.  I've actually seen this before on a tractor used for plowing.