zlimmy 78 #1 Posted July 4 Hi all. My D-200 need a set of new steering ball joints. Is threre a place to get these, and if anyone know exact dimensjon, type, etc i would be grateful. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,657 #2 Posted July 4 @zlimmy https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/toro-wheel-horse-tie-rod-78-2900-78-290001-longer-length-with-replaceable-ends-with-nuts/ is this what you need ? check this and related sites , for best answer to your problem , pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlimmy 78 #3 Posted July 4 16 minutes ago, peter lena said: @zlimmy https://wheelhorsepartsandmore.com/product/toro-wheel-horse-tie-rod-78-2900-78-290001-longer-length-with-replaceable-ends-with-nuts/ is this what you need ? check this and related sites , for best answer to your problem , pete Yes, been a while since i looked into that shop. Amazing how mutch parts they reproduse now. Unfortunatley, its one of the ball ends on my drag link witch has slop. Couldn't seem to find it there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,657 #4 Posted July 4 @zlimmy lots of related joint sites there , personally have change every related swivel joint over to a HEIM JOINT years ago , never had a heim joint fail , might try an auto parts , for a leader . other members might also join in with a specific , replacement , pete . have found that rotational joint failure is more of a MOVEMENT TRANSITION POINT , that causes the issue , also related to a polyurea lubricant , made to stay with angular changes . pete 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lee1977 6,683 #5 Posted July 4 (edited) I don't have a D-series, but I'm sure I could rebuild the steering with heims joints. I used lined heims joints on all my Wheel Horses. May take a little modification but it can be done. They are made in male and female and with or without the stud on the ball joint. I ordered them from Speedway Motors The standard steel heims are better the the forged ball that are original. I used lined heims joints on my 1977 C-120 in 1989 they are still tight. Edited July 4 by Lee1977 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,171 #6 Posted July 4 (edited) These ball joints are not like what's on the c series. These are automotive style tie rod ends. If you have a Napa store near by with an old time counterman and they were smart enough to keep the old books around there is a chart in the chassis catalog to match up thread sizes ,directions stud length ect. Starts on page 967 in there 1995 and prior chassis catalog. It can be done on the computer if they are willing to take the time. Edited July 4 by squonk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,388 #7 Posted July 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, squonk said: If you have a Napa store near by with an old time counterman and they were smart enough to keep the old books around there is a chart in the chassis catalog to match up thread sizes ,directions stud length ect. Most of the "Old Time" Jobbers are long gone , now looking at the grass from the root side, not the green ..... Too bad the OLD stuff may not have been scanned digitally before getting chucked...... Edited July 4 by ri702bill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlimmy 78 #8 Posted July 5 16 hours ago, squonk said: These ball joints are not like what's on the c series. These are automotive style tie rod ends. If you have a Napa store near by with an old time counterman and they were smart enough to keep the old books around there is a chart in the chassis catalog to match up thread sizes ,directions stud length ect. Starts on page 967 in there 1995 and prior chassis catalog. It can be done on the computer if they are willing to take the time. Thats interesting. Since i'm located in Norway far up north, its no lockal warehouse to visit. But is this the exact dimension / type ball link in picture? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,171 #9 Posted July 5 I have no idea what the size is. The picture shows what needs to be measured. If I had all of the dimensions, it's possible to come up with a part number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,657 #10 Posted July 5 @ zlimmy , don,t know what your local auto parts has for chassis parts , but regularly see suspension bushings , joints etc at any of the local to me spots . seen a number of 2 / 3 bolt flange type joint replacements . do not expect to find an exact replacement , but an adaption of a swivel point . https://www.homedepot.com/p/OE-Solutions-Rear-Right-Upper-Control-Arm-524-806/311988510?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&srsltid=AfmBOoo4GUyubvO_GvP12Y9Kog-HOvL02drQrGJBSrAvG0MFXzXRJwMDqh4 seams easy to me , to adapt to any failure , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,743 #11 Posted July 5 Some measurements Large Taper .466 Small Taper .420 Taper Length .45 Rod 1/2" NF Left or right thread Tip 3/8NF Only cross over I have ever have had with my military Vehicle hobby. The tie rod ends M274 and D200 are similar. The right hand is the same the Left has a longer rod end. Problem is the right side (2530-953-4877 are rarer than hens teeth. The left side are still on E bay sometimes. If you have access to a machine shop you could get 2 Left side rods ((2530-953-4878) Cut the rod down and thread the remains one left-handed thread one right... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,171 #12 Posted July 6 Looks like the 269- 2116 and 2117 are the closest possibilities. Maybe they would work with some mods to the attaching part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlimmy 78 #13 Posted August 20 Now this interesting. I actually have a lathe, so set tread is possible at home. But is drag-link end left and right and the same as on tie-rod ends? Presume so, but life experience says never expect anything.. 😬 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pfrederi 17,743 #14 Posted August 20 The ball joint ends are the same it is the shaft ;length and threads that vary 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlimmy 78 #15 Posted August 20 Will be chasing ebay for M274 ends then. 👍 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
