PWL216 889 #1 Posted June 16 Hi all! A gentleman I bought a tractor from a few years ago reached out and asked if I had an interest in his family's 856 and implements. They've owned it since new, always kept it in the garage and have all the original documentation. I own primarily 300/500 Series and don't know much about the 8XX Series. It has a known carburetor issue and a broken spindle on the deck. Those are the only known issues. He's selling a lot, which includes: tractor, deck, snow blower, homemade trailer, bottom plow, disc plow, other. The seller is a great guy and if I decide to buy it, I want to make a fair offer. Having said that, what is a fair offer? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,316 #2 Posted June 16 I'll toss out a guesstimate at $700 to $800 for the whole package. A plus - looks to be an original HL light kit. A potential big minus - the "broken spindle" on the deck. That usually happens by hitting a stationary object while mowing at WOT. Most likely, the cast iron spindle housing plate underneath is cracked... and not too easy to find a suitable replacement..... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,188 #3 Posted June 16 At $ 700 to $ 800 you could sell off the plow, discs, cultivators, cart and snow blower ending up with a free 856 in very nice condition. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,834 #4 Posted June 16 That’s a good looking setup right there! The two row disc is pretty cool! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,420 #5 Posted June 16 9 hours ago, PWL216 said: tractor, deck, snow blower, homemade trailer, bottom plow, disc plow, other. TRACTOR. Looks like mostly original paint. Appears to have a lighter. The headlights are a good thing. The hitch pin may be too. The front axle and engine maybe different colors from the rest. "Not running" isn't optimal but it's likely a fairly easy fix. With those lights and lighter that's a $300 to $400 tractor EASILY. DECK. Unfortunately that would be considered a "parts" deck at this point. $50. SNOW BLOWER. If it's fully operational, $100 to $150. HOMEMADE TRAILER. If solid I'd guess $100 to $300 depending on materials, size, condition etc. BOTTOM PLOW. $150 to $200. DISC PLOW. I'm not sure on a two row disc. Likely $200 or more if fully functional. OTHER. CULTIVATOR tines... These usually bring $100 to $150 but it looks like there's two different types? You're at a solid $1200 to $1400 value if divided out. But you'd be doing all the work. IMHO $800 to $1000+ could be considered very fair to both parties. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adsm08 2,046 #6 Posted June 16 I paid $900 a few years ago for an 855, non-running, with deck and plow. Same model, just a year older. How broken is the spindle and how is it broken? If the plate itself is intact they are extremely rebuildable. @Handy Don just walked me through one here over the last two weeks. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,188 #7 Posted June 16 1 hour ago, ebinmaine said: engine maybe different colors from the rest. I think Kohler used better paint than Wheel Horse did. The paint on my barn find 953's engine is reasonably red, the rest of the pant is nonexistent. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,420 #8 Posted June 16 42 minutes ago, 953 nut said: I think Kohler used better paint than Wheel Horse did. I've wondered about that too..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,814 #9 Posted June 16 12 hours ago, ri702bill said: $700 to $800 for the whole package I'll second that ... The HL setup is worth 2 - 250 alone if in decent shape. Plow & cultivator add 2+ tho the plow looks bent. I have a 856 for 300 and can't seem to give it away. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,067 #10 Posted June 16 I say buy it. You can probably find a "parts deck" at the show. Just make sure it's a 36 incher. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oliver2-44 9,729 #11 Posted June 16 15 hours ago, PWL216 said: Series. It has a known carburetor issue and a broken spindle on the deck. Those are the only known issues. Looks a little oily on the front left side of the engine. it could be a seal behind the flywheel, or just oil spilled while filling it. The inside of the right rear wheel looks oily. What does the inside of the left rear wheel look like? Also check the area where the brake shaft and input pulley go into the transmission. The transmission may need seals, or axle bearings and seals. When their oily/dirty like this, there's and increased chance the axle hub needs to be tightened. The 3/4 speed transmission is easy to work on if needed. If you can clean a carburetor, you can work on that transmission. Very nice package, just needs a little common maintenance for its age. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWL216 889 #12 Posted June 16 5 hours ago, adsm08 said: How broken is the spindle and how is it broken? If the plate itself is intact they are extremely rebuildable. Hi @adsm08 I’m not sure. I haven’t seen it in person yet. I can ask the owner. Thx! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adsm08 2,046 #13 Posted June 16 4 hours ago, WHX?? said: I have a 856 for 300 and can't seem to give it away. Its too far from me or I would probably be interested. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PWL216 889 #14 Posted June 26 Well, to help the seller out (who treated me right in the past), I’m buying the whole package but will be putting it up for sale here on the forum. I can’t take on another project at the moment. The tractor and implements are in MA. Full disclosure, I’m paying $750. Given that I have to go get it, bring it back here and unload it, I’m thinking that I’ll ask $900 or $750+ a 300/400 series project tractor. I’d really like to sell it as a lot. Look for a post in the classified section soon, as I may have the tractor as early as tomorrow… 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
