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Cjwv1975

Theres a 416H anniversary edition for sale near me.  Around 1000hrs and has snow plow with it.  Guy is asking $1000 for it all. Looks to be in good shape. Is that price good

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ebinmaine

Any pics?

Known issues? 

Maintenance needed?

 

 

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Cjwv1975

Supposedly garage kept until recently. It does run.  I would be able to see it in person

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lynnmor
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From what I can see, the tractor looks pretty good.  You will of course need a new seat soon and the valves are due for adjustment.  The fuel filter appears to be old and it might be time to replace all fuel hose.  One front tire has been replaced so it is likely other tires are dry rotted.  The deck wheels need to be replaced.  This is a 28 year old tractor that apparently needs the usual TLC to get it right.  All the anniversary edition got you was some pretty gold things, nothing functional was changed.

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Cjwv1975
5 minutes ago, lynnmor said:

From what I can see, the tractor looks pretty good.  You will of course need a new seat soon and the valves are due for adjustment.  The fuel filter appears to be old and it might be time to replace all fuel hose.  One front tire has been replaced so it is likely other tires are dry rotted.  The deck wheels need to be replaced.  This is a 28 year old tractor that apparently needs the usual TLC to get it right.  All the anniversary edition got you some pretty gold things, nothing functional was changed.

Are the valves hard to adjust only have done stuff on the Kohler K series engines never had a onan engine WH

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ebinmaine

@lynnmor makes good points. 

 

The "right price" is the one that makes BOTH buyer and seller satisfied. 

 

I'm not familiar with your market. Up here that tractor for a $1K is OK. Not a steal but likely a reasonable purchase.  

 

 

I'd definitely ask the seller "Is there anything you've been meaning to do?"

Any work they've known it needs but haven't gotten to. 

 

However you need to phrase it to glean the information.  

 

Knowing what Lynnmor pointed out perhaps you could negotiate kindly towards $800 ish. 

 

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lynnmor
3 minutes ago, Cjwv1975 said:

Are the valves hard to adjust only have done stuff on the Kohler K series engines never had a onan engine WH

Not hard to adjust but here is much to remove to get there.  You will need new intake, valve cover and exhaust gaskets.  The exhaust and intake needs to come off, but this would be a great time to glass bead the exhaust and paint it.  Also paint the valve covers and inspect the intake manifold for leakage and gouges where the heat shields often rub.

 

So you don't get confused, choose a valve to adjust and rotate the crankshaft till that valve is opened to its maximum amount and then rotate the crankshaft one turn.  Repeat three more times.  The Onan Service Manual, which you will download, has you doing a dance that has you watching for timing marks and it ain't necessary.

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Cjwv1975
38 minutes ago, ebinmaine said:

@lynnmor makes good points. 

 

The "right price" is the one that makes BOTH buyer and seller satisfied. 

 

I'm not familiar with your market. Up here that tractor for a $1K is OK. Not a steal but likely a reasonable purchase.  

 

 

I'd definitely ask the seller "Is there anything you've been meaning to do?"

Any work they've known it needs but haven't gotten to. 

 

However you need to phrase it to glean the information.  

 

Knowing what Lynnmor pointed out perhaps you could negotiate kindly towards $800 ish. 

 

Guy say it was his grandfathers and he doesnt know much about WH. I am going to try and look at it in person. He says he's getting alot of Interest. I want it more for hydo lift than anything for my bottom plow

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ebinmaine
Just now, Cjwv1975 said:

Guy say it was his grandfathers and he doesnt know much about WH. I am going to try and look at it in person. He says he's getting alot of Interest. I want it more for hydo lift than anything for my bottom plow

 

 

Excellent.  Keep us posted!!

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daveoman1966

Couple things about buying ANY tractor... or anything for that matter.  

If the seller accepts your first offer, that offer was too high.

Offer less that the asking price---all he can do is say "no".  To that, you might reply with: "well, what would you take for it?" 

It's a negotiation to find the 'Market Value' which is defined as :

'The price a willing seller accepts from the buyer, neither party being under duress.' 

    

 

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Tuneup

"Getting a lot of interest" Yeah, I'm sure. Standard seller fare. I do love those Onans. The 516 just purrs.

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