Deck bolts

[Jason X 19]

This is my 1972 Raider. My deck is held together in some spots with pins. Any know where I can get ahold of some proper fitting bolts?

[Jason X 19]

This is my 1972 Raider. My deck is held together in some spots with pins. Any know where I can get ahold of some proper fitting bolts?

[953 nut 55,229]

8 hours ago, Jason X said:

This is my 1972 Raider. My deck is held together in some spots with pins. Any know where I can get ahold of some proper fitting bolts?

A picture of the PINS might be helpful.  ACE Hardware would be a good place to look for any type of fastener you need.

[ebinmaine 67,502]

Normally on a Wheelhorse the bolts are considered a "Standard Part" so most aren't called out by part number. Some are called out by size. 

 

In your pics it looks like the pins are angled which could indicate the holes are worn. 

Drilling and bushing the holes may be needed. 

 

 

You could source properly sized or oversized bolts from Bolt Depot in Massachusetts  or  McMaster Carr. 

[gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,045]

One can often use a bolt that fits the holes as tight as possible but using one that has enough unthreaded shank to pass through both pieces of metal plus a bit. If you have two pieces of metal say 1/4" thick you want a bolt that will span both pieces of metal plus a bit. The idea is to keep threads out of the metal where they will wear the pin and/or metal. It may take a 2" bolt or more to accomplish this. Add flat washers to use up some of the straight bolt shank and add a Nylok nut. Now you can adjust the nut so the connection barely allows the two metal pieces to pivot. SAE flat washers work better if you can find them. Cut off any extra thread if it is in the way.

This is also a good way to tighten up the  front hood pivots after they wear and reduce the annoying rattles.

[Handy Don 12,232]

On 6/7/2024 at 11:41 PM, Jason X said:

 deck is held together in some spots with pins. Any know where I can get ahold of some proper fitting bolts?

These are usually ⅜” shoulder hex head bolts with locking nuts with a flat washer on the nut side. As replacements, I’d use Grade 5 zinc plated. 

(I’ve never seen clevis pins used here and those look like the wrong size anyway!)

If the holes are already too worn for ⅜” to fit snugly, you might consider drilling them out to 7/16” and using bolts of that size.

Edited June 9 by Handy Don

[Jason X 19]

I think the shoulder bolts are the way to go. I had seen them before but I had no idea what they were called. Big thanks for that. Picture doesn't show it well but the side you can see is 1/2 inch and the back side is 1/4 inch(?). I'll try and source them. Thanks to all.

Edited June 9 by Jason X
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[Jason X 19]

Come to think of it 3/8 is probably correct. The clevis pins were one size and never fit right . That's why it's angled. It was a cob job until I could get it right.

Edited June 9 by Jason X
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[Lee1977 6,659]

Most deck bolts are 3/8"  carriage bolts, the steel bar has a steel square hole for a carriage bolt  ( or should have). The hitch attachment  should have a bushing that \s 5/8" in diameter with a 3/8" hole It's a little thicker then the steel bar. Wheel Horse calls it a spacer part no.102704. They keep changing part no. over the years but the spacer stays the same size.

Someone has added a bolt through the bar at the front up right that should not be there. The up right are there just to keep the deck line up they should not be attached to the deck bracket.

Edited June 9 by Lee1977

[Handy Don 12,232]

14 hours ago, Jason X said:

Come to think of it 3/8 is probably correct. The clevis pins were one size and never fit right . That's why it's angled. It was a cob job until I could get it right.

Your comment prompted me to go looking in my spare parts bins and refresh my memory.

What I found is important and I suspect when you have your frame apart you’ll find a ⅜” square hole on one member and a 5/8” round hole on the other. This hardware addresses that.

 

This is a standard ⅜” x 1” carriage bolt plus a ⅜ ID 5/8” OD x ¼” bushing plus a locking flange nut from the frame of a scrapped deck. All readily available parts.

The bushing allows the frame to pivot without hitting the bolt’s thread and the locking flange both keeps the proper tightness on the bolt AND eliminates the need for a separate washer.

 

Edited June 9 by Handy Don

[squonk 41,118]

I'd be worried about the holes being wallowed out with that pin and clip arrangement.