Sparky-(Admin) 21,318 #1 Posted June 7 No idea whats in it…it’s a mystery ? Vise Grip Garage /Derek Bieri reference that some of you may get. My question is: If you do an oil change and use it (I used just over 1/2 a qt of it) do you leave it in for the full 25 or so hours between oil changes? Or slap a couple hours on it, get it hot a few times, and drain out and go back to straight 30w? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,500 #2 Posted June 7 My first thought is: Why are you using it? Engine have issues? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,318 #3 Posted June 7 1 minute ago, ebinmaine said: My first thought is: Why are you using it? Engine have issues? It was my 14 Magnum that I thought might have had a sticking valve at one point. Did an oil change (super old black skanky oil) and added the snake oil. Of course it didn’t change anything because my issue was a blockage in the exhaust. But now that it’s on there, with fresh 30w as well, what’s the next move? Leave it? Drain it? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,500 #4 Posted June 7 2 minutes ago, Sparky said: It was my 14 Magnum that I thought might have had a sticking valve at one point. Did an oil change (super old black skanky oil) and added the snake oil. Of course it didn’t change anything because my issue was a blockage in the exhaust. But now that it’s on there, with fresh 30w as well, what’s the next move? Leave it? Drain it? Been a looooong time since I used any chemicals. I like the idea of leaving it in a couple hours and changing. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squonk 41,118 #5 Posted June 7 Get er hot and dump it 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,321 #6 Posted June 7 OK - my two MMO sucess stories.... Chevy Vega - motor # 2 of 3.... Cold February day, collaped lifter, running on 3 ish cylinders. Drained a 1/2 quart, tossed in a bottle of MMO - 5 minutes it idles just fine - AND, it smells like NECCO wafers!!! Saturn SL1 - seems that the oil rings ARE designed to spin on the pistons!!! They sludge up, stop spinning and oil consumption shoots up.Per the service writer at the now long gone Saturn dealer - Position the car in the garage with tailpipe facing the door,,,,, pull the 4 plugs, add 1oz of MMO in the holes, let sit overnight to "wash" the rings. In the morning, spin the motor over with rags over the plug holes to catch any splash. Install plugs, fire it up until the white smoke goes away.... Performance goes up, oil use goes down.... They used to get $150 a pop for this "service". 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fordiesel69 263 #7 Posted June 7 Run several hrs and let the pepermint oil clean things up. On the night before the oil change, dump a whole bunch in the cylinder and let it sit the entire night. Crank as much out of the spark plug hole onto some shop rags and when you start it up, there will be a smoke screen of epic amounts. MMO still will work to some degree to clean the piston and rings when used as a piston soak. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ri702bill 8,321 #8 Posted June 7 1 hour ago, ri702bill said: smells like NECCO wafers! Probably only makes sense to New Englanders or transplanted ones. Sadly, gone... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marv 924 #9 Posted June 7 20 minutes ago, ri702bill said: Probably only makes sense to New Englanders or transplanted ones. Sadly, gone... They are still around. I saw some a couple days ago. Marv 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPINJIM 1,981 #10 Posted June 7 My understanding is that MMO is just some light weight oil with some detergent and a couple of other chemicals added (dissolved Necco wafers?) . I used it successfully, mixed 50:50 with diesel fuel to free up a seized K301 engine. Haven't used it mixed with oil in my small engines, but I do add it to my car engines, usually about a thousand miles before I have an oil change, hoping to loosen up some sludge. Jim 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,318 #11 Posted June 7 Well that’s settles it…tomorrow I’ll get it good and hot and drain it. Thanks guys! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky-(Admin) 21,318 #12 Posted June 8 Very dark for under 2 hours of run time. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebinmaine 67,500 #13 Posted June 8 27 minutes ago, Sparky said: Very dark for under 2 hours of run time. It's quite likely the cleaners in the MMO got some extra stuff off the inside of the block. I'd take that as a good sign but I'd also be prone to another quick run & change in the next few hours of run time. For $10-$12 worth of oil it'd just make me feel better. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth R Cluley 515 #14 Posted June 8 If you want to try the Necco wafers in oil they have them at "Cracker Barrel". 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lynnmor 7,306 #15 Posted June 8 6 hours ago, ebinmaine said: I'd also be prone to another quick run & change in the next few hours of run time. Agree, that black oil indicates there is more crud that should be removed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peter lena 8,627 #16 Posted June 9 @Sparky been using RISLONE ZINK IN ALL MY OILS for years now , 4 oz , with a 2 + ot oil change, the thing thats most noticeable is the running ease , zero smoke ,can relate to snake oil , made specifically for older engines, run it the full 25 hr oil change year round , pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8ntruck 7,004 #17 Posted June 9 (edited) That Rislone treatment adds some zinc in some form to the oil. Zinc is usually one of the ingredients in oil used to improve the extreme pressure lubricity - a good thing in our elderly Kohlers, inane, and Techies that have journal bearings and gear driven flat tapped cams. The modern engine oils are formulated for modern engines with all of the neat friction reducing developments that are not present in our tractors. My opinion on oil? Any kind of oil is better than not enough oil. Clean oil is better than dirty oil. For my old engines with flat tappets, I've been using Shell Rotella. Why? Because it is formulated for diesel engines with a better extreme pressure additive package than used in gas engines. For my new stuff, I follow the manufactures recommendations - they have a whole bunch of people working on lubrication who have forgotten more than I ever knew about the subject. Edited June 9 by 8ntruck 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
