bencrazy 4 #1 Posted May 21 Hi everyone. I've been trying and trying to identify what type of coil is needed for this K161, but keep failing to find the correct information. I've ordered two coils for a K161 and neither one fit (further research tells me the frame that those fit on is more of an E shape. Pictures of the WH in question are attached for reference. My best lead so far was to contact Standard Magneto but, after an initial call, they've gone silent. Too bad, because it looks like one of those Wico coils would work. I will post dimensions for the coil in another post... Thanks in advance! Would love to get this WH running for using around the house! -Ben Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #2 Posted May 21 Dimensions of the old coil attached Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #3 Posted May 21 What's interesting is that I found this parts diagram, which looks like my application, but the 230075 replacement coils (which, from other searching, appears to be a Bendix Scintilla) do not look the same as what I've got, neither the coil nor the frame. Reference to some other posts regarding the 230075 coil: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
953 nut 55,464 #4 Posted May 22 Give "I SAVE TRACTORS" a call. https://isavetractors.com/ignition-coil-for-magneto-ignition-system-for-kohler-k141-k161-k181-k241-k301-engine/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,078 #5 Posted May 22 Is the tractor a model 704? That is where the engine was used originally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pullstart 62,972 #6 Posted May 22 55 minutes ago, gwest_ca said: Is the tractor a model 704? That is where the engine was used originally. His favorite tractor is listed as a 753. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHX?? 48,877 #7 Posted May 22 1 minute ago, Pullstart said: His favorite tractor is listed as a 753. Repo then his is a yank start. I might have that coil will have to look. My boy Ryan got one from @Shynon to put the 161 on a Amigo back to yank start. Ben 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallfish 17,036 #8 Posted May 22 Any of those type coils that fit over the laminated square piece will work regardless of the dimensions as long as it fits under the flywheel without touching it. I've shimmed them tight because the hole in the coil was larger than the laminated square. Is that the case with the coils you received? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #9 Posted May 22 (edited) Thanks everyone. I tried a coil for a K161 from iSaveTractors and it didn't fit. It was the same situation as a coil from Amazon - both of them did not fit on the frame. Coil inner diameters were about 0.4 inches square, but the frame is about 0.5 inches square. I believe the tractor is a 753 based on the sticker on the belt guard. The engine is pull start only. Happy to provide any other information that might help. I searched all over the engine for additional markings in case the cover was maybe swapped, but couldn't find anything. Edited May 22 by bencrazy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #10 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, wallfish said: Any of those type coils that fit over the laminated square piece will work regardless of the dimensions as long as it fits under the flywheel without touching it. I've shimmed them tight because the hole in the coil was larger than the laminated square. Is that the case with the coils you received? Unfortunately, the opposite - the hole in the coils is too small to fit on the laminated frame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gwest_ca-(File Mod) 11,078 #11 Posted May 22 62-8284 looks like a 1962 serial number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,116 #12 Posted May 22 The label skips the 161 Wire is a Kohler 220443 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #13 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Racinbob said: The label skips the 161 Wire is a Kohler 220443 Do you happen to have (or are you easily able to get) measurement of the inner hole diameter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,116 #14 Posted May 22 6 minutes ago, bencrazy said: Do you happen to have (or are you easily able to get) measurement of the inner hole diameter? About .45". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #15 Posted May 22 (edited) Bummer. My laminated plates are 0.5" Edited May 22 by bencrazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #16 Posted May 22 (edited) I thought about filing down the frame to fit the smaller diameter bores of the K161 replacement coils that didn't fit, but I'm worried about the "joint" where the two halves of the frame come together. Edited May 22 by bencrazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racinbob 11,116 #17 Posted May 22 (edited) Using a mic it was actually more. Actually I think that's just what they are. That insulation stuff is pretty inconsistent the measurement varied.. You might want to emory it a bit just to clean it up but don't try to resize it. Edited May 22 by Racinbob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #18 Posted May 22 Great, I'll pick one up and see if it works - will report back results! Thanks! Ben 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #19 Posted May 24 (edited) - removed Edited May 24 by bencrazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #20 Posted May 24 (edited) - removed Edited May 24 by bencrazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bencrazy 4 #21 Posted June 2 On 5/22/2024 at 6:03 AM, Racinbob said: The label skips the 161 Wire is a Kohler 220443 Just to close the loop on this thread, the coil recommended by Racinbob (shown above) was the correct fit and works! -Ben 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites