New Math? Metric?

[Racinbob 11,081]

I install oil drain valves with the nipple for a hose on whatever I can. The Kohler big blocks hold 2 quarts. I dump 2 quarts in and don't have to add any between changes. My usual MO is to connect a hose and open the drain in to a 2 quart juice bottle. Perfect, right? It always was. I would do something else as the oil drained good then go back and finish up. Last fall as I was changing to the weight I use in the winter and followed my usual routine. When I got back to the tractor the bottle overflowed onto the garage floor. Hmmmmm.....I basically blew it off but still wondered. I was changing one a couple days ago and watched it. As a bottle was almost full it was still coming out fast. I shut it off and got another bottle. The results:

 

 

Note the 64 ounces on the bottle. Well, either Valvoline is being real generous with their quart bottles, 32 and 32 don't equal 64 using the new math or Juice Juice is up to something. 

[JoeM 7,874]

Something is off. Not metric.

Hope your not getting that much gas in your oil??

If you have an old quart oil bottle might want to fill it twice with water pouring into one of those juice containers to confirm. Would let you know what way to go.

I know grocery suppliers are cutting sizes down and usually change the labels to match tho.

[Racinbob 11,081]

7 minutes ago, JoeM said:

Something is off. Not metric.

Hope your not getting that much gas in your oil??

If you have an old quart oil bottle might want to fill it twice with water pouring into one of those juice containers to confirm. Would let you know what way to go.

I know grocery suppliers are cutting sizes down and usually change the labels to match tho.

My new math and metric comment was sarcasm. And no, there's no gas in the oil. What you're seeing there is exactly 2 quarts of used oil. I never have to add any oil between changes. I plan to actually measure before contacting the company. 

Edited May 20 by Racinbob

[WHX?? 48,815]

Lemme get my shoes off you wanna do math over 10 Bob...

Like your idea tho. I would just drain the old oil into my recycle jug but then mark a clean juice bottle with the amount  needed to F on the stick. Fill the clear bottle to the mark then to the engine.

I buy oil by the pail 20 tractors to feed ya know! 

No more add check ... add check ...add check without over filling. 

You know the only goal I have in life is a oil change without spilling a drop! 

 

Then again draining old to a known oz jug might give one an idea of oil consumption in those smokers.  

Edited May 20 by WHX??

[Racinbob 11,081]

41 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

Then again draining old to a known oz jug might give one an idea of oil consumption in those smokers.  

 

I just dumped the old oil into the two empty I quart bottles I used to refill the engine. Perfect fit. 

[rmaynard 15,461]

Okay, so you piqued my interest.

Here is a Juicy Juice bottle from my fridge. 

 

 

It's not full, so I poured the contents into a pitcher. Then I took a 1 quart pitcher and filled it with water.

 

 

I poured the contents twice into the J/J bottle. As you can see, there is room to spare.

 

 

My conclusion is, never give up that engine. Its making oil. 

 

Edited May 20 by rmaynard

[wallfish 17,000]

6 minutes ago, rmaynard said:

My conclusion is, never give up that engine. Its making oil. 

Bob's got a oil mine! Almost as good as a philosopher's stone!

[Ed Kennell 38,177]

I didn't read the entire thread, but should I be using the sugar free or the regular Juicy Juice in my Onans?      

I guess the sugar free is best for the Eatons, right?

[rmaynard 15,461]

For you Ed, you drink the oil. It'll keep you regular...no, that's Castor oil, not Castrol oil.

[squonk 41,118]

Seeing that bottle of used oil reminded me of a customer we had at Napa. We had to accept used oil for recycling because we sold oil. We had a 55 gal drum out back. when full or DC would pick it up and drop off an empty.

 

One Saturday this guy who was a HS teacher comes in and buys a couple of quarts of oil for his mower, boat and tiller. He says, where can I get rid of the old oil? I tell him we can take it. Few hours pass and he's back. He has COUNT THEM!!! 65 1 qt. bottles of used oil. I'm like WT...........? 

 

I have to dump all of them then haul those empty bottle to the dumpster! 

 

I sell him a 1 gallon self contained with a funnel used oil container. I tell him when it's full bring it in and I'll dump it and hand it back to him.

 

About a year goes buy and another Saturday here he comes with his full oil container AND ABOUT ANOTHER 15 QUART BOTTLES OF USED OIL!!! 

[stevasaurus 22,740]

It's the difference between weight and volume.  They switched from one to the other when the Queen passed away.      

[Racinbob 11,081]

Well I'm befuzzled as to what's going on. Let's add more confusion. We had a different flavor in the cabinet with the same bottle. Maybe a regional thing?

 

 

Dang! You guys were getting me excited thinking I might have an oil producing tractor. I was already throwing stuff in the back of my Ranger getting set to move to Beverly Hills. 

[squonk 41,118]

38 minutes ago, Racinbob said:

Well I'm befuzzled as to what's going on. Let's add more confusion. We had a different flavor in the cabinet with the same bottle. Maybe a regional thing?

 

 

Dang! You guys were getting me excited thinking I might have an oil producing tractor. I was already throwing stuff in the back of my Ranger getting set to move to Beverly Hills. 

Make sure Granny's chair is bolted down good!

[WHX?? 48,815]

While we're on the subject what do you guys do with drain oil? Dump it on the neighbors flowers? Down the drain? Start brush piles? My NAPA will only take a small amount. Same with other auto places if they take it at all. 

I put it in big jugs then to a

auto repair shop who has a waste oil burner. 

49 minutes ago, Racinbob said:

getting set to move to Beverly Hills. 

Stop on yer way thru I'll cook up a mess of 'opsum shanks...

[rmaynard 15,461]

In my county you can take used oil, anti-freeze and transmission fluid to one of many collection sites. Each site has at least three 275 gallon oil tanks with large pour-in receptors with strainers. Twice a year you can bring oil and other hazardous chemicals to "recycling" day at the county maintenance facility. 

 

However, with the price of oil having gone up over 200% in the last three years, I'm thinking about having my furnace converted to a waste-oil burner.

Edited May 21 by rmaynard

[Ed Kennell 38,177]

39 minutes ago, WHX?? said:

While we're on the subject what do you guys do with drain oil? 

Me an Greasy Pete coat our mowing decks, spare tire wheels, boat trailer springs and the crabgrass in our stone roads.

[elcamino/wheelhorse 9,299]

2 hours ago, rmaynard said:

For you Ed, you drink the oil. It'll keep you regular...no, that's Castor oil, not Castrol oil.

I don't know about the kids on here, but every spring it was castor time,  you have the memory Ed?

[stevasaurus 22,740]

Actually Bob, the nearer you are to the equator, the larger things get and the more things weight.  I'm surprised you did not have an issue when you lived in Florida??  It could have been the "Peninsula Theory".  You guys have probably never heard of that.  

[JoeM 7,874]

Uh-oh.......them juicy juicers.....shrinking them bottles. looks like the jug has wrong label.

6 hours ago, WHX?? said:

You know the only goal I have in life is a oil change without spilling a drop!

very rare for me

 

It's nice it is figured out. 

[stevasaurus 22,740]

Actually, Illinois (Chicago area) is recycling plastics, stirofoam, oil and paint.  Oil I can take to any oil change place.  Paints is now a phone call and they will pick it up.  The trick is...always give yourself some breathing room when draining your oil.  Bob, you have a good mystery there, and I am sure there is a good answer.  

[Racinbob 11,081]

2 hours ago, WHX?? said:

While we're on the subject what do you guys do with drain oil? Dump it on the neighbors flowers? Down the drain? Start brush piles? My NAPA will only take a small amount. Same with other auto places if they take it at all. 

I put it in big jugs then to a

auto repair shop who has a waste oil burner. 

Stop on yer way thru I'll cook up a mess of 'opsum shanks...

Smoked with piss elm wood chips I hope. 

[squonk 41,118]

I take mine down the street to a shop that has a waste oil burner. He's always worried about gasoline or lacquer thinner in it when folks drop off oil. He gives it a sniff! 

 

Waste oil burners are for folks who have a lot of waste oil available and also have a lot of free time to work on the burner as they are not very reliable and require a ton of maintenance. So if you don't have the time, you don't save a dime running one after you pay some one to get it going on a 10° day. That is if you can find someone to actually work on it.

[Beap52 811]

Years ago we had a pole barn getting eaten up with termites.  A few gallons of motor oil around then post bottoms and the termites were nowhere to be found.  EPA probably won't approve of that now.  In fact we had some friends who bought a house whose previous owner kept used oil in a drum that eventually leaked into surrounding soil.  When they sold the house, the new owner reported the oily soil and it cost our friends quite a bit a money to remove and replace the  dirt. 

[Handy Don 12,232]

23 hours ago, squonk said:

He's always worried about gasoline or lacquer thinner in it when folks drop off oil. He gives it a sniff!

My local shop does the same before adding it to his drum. The vendor who collects it has some sort of test and will reject the entire 55-gallon drum if if fails.

[kpinnc 12,061]

On 5/20/2024 at 12:51 PM, Racinbob said:

getting set to move to Beverly Hills. 

 

 

Don't care who you are, that's funny right there!